Sons of Guns Building .458 AR

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by jd45, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. jd45

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    Happy New Year Everyone! I just saw a commercial for Will Hayden's program on the Discovery Channel this morning. It'll air Wednesday evening @ 9, 8 central, I believe. It's channel 182 in my Dish viewing pkg here in the Chicago area. I myself don't have an AR, not planning to acquire one either, but I'll sure be tuning in to see him & his Red Jacket crew do the build. They're gonna put it to use on big hogs around the Baton Rouge area when it's finished. Just thought I'd give you that may be interested the heads-up on it. jd45
     
  2. Sniper03

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    JD,

    Are they building a 458 SOCOM? If they are, let me tell you it will kill a Pig!
    Like DRT!
    I will plug it into my cell phone alarm so I do not miss the show! Thanks!
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  3. mjkeat

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    I saw the commercial. What is it they think they are doing that hasn't been done before?

    It's my personal opinion that the show sucks and their stuff is wildly overpriced. The dramatics are over the top and obviously scripted.

    I try over and over to watch it but never make it past a couple minutes. I want to like it so bad but am constantly disappointed.
     
  4. Sniper03

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    MJ,

    I think it was a previous thread that I also responded to. But I guess they got into real serious problems with the Feds about loosing some guns when the did an audit on their facility. I wonder what the total outcome is going to be on that issue. I am surprised they are still on. And you are right some of their show is pure CR-P! I guess they classify themselves as COOL! But I wold like to see a more technical show about weapons with issues like installation demonstrations, repairs and testing. "Other than the other two idiots on TV that try to tear weapons up to justify their existence on TV. I detest that show!:rolleyes:

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  5. mjkeat

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    Larry Vickers' Tac TV and that new show Triggers are somewhat informative and quite entertaining. Triggers sometimes is a little goofy but all in all a decent firearms based show. LV's show has been a good one

    I agree I would like to see a show that goes over the install, general repair, and so on of everything from the common firearm to more exotic stuff w/o the BS drama or fantasy dragon, quadruple, flying, machine guns.
     
  6. theboarbuster

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    What can they do with 458 socom that hasnt already been done. I have been hunting with mine for 3 or 4 years. There are guys on the 458 forum that have been doing it a lot longer. Its not like they are going to shoot at pirates? Oh waite thats already been done with the Socom. I hope they give credit to Marty for his wonderful cartridge.
     
  7. Quentin

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    I don't watch Sons of Guns either, I would if it was worth it but who has the time for something that ridiculous. Show like that give gun owners a bad name!

    Fortunately there are good things to watch even if you've stuck with OTA instead of subscription - and man can you OD on YouTube, everything under the sun! Plus you can download the really good videos (I LOVE multiterabyte hard disks) and compose DVDs to watch at your leisure. Yep, video overload so who needs 2.5 men vs. the soggy bottom boys! :p
     
  8. mjkeat

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    We used to watch 2 1/2 Men all the time until Ashton came aboard. I just can't get into it now. It's probably not him, just me not liking the change after years of Charlie.

    Q, go to Tac TV's web page. I think you can watch the show there.
     
  9. JonM

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    They are pretending no one else has ever integrally suppressed a socom before. It was a wright up several years ago which i stumbled across on the original socom forums before it got hacked about an integrally suppressed 458 that really got me thinking about one.

    Maybe it will go mainstream a bit more and one of the ammo makers will publish load data!!
     
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  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    so now they are going to build something already been done? how are they going to make it an original? capable of shooting 1000 yards! i watched the show a few times when it first came on, but now i can't sit and watch it before the first commercial comes on. i just don't really like most reality shows, as they are IMO, scripted drama.
     
  11. MrWray

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    Its about like the show "call of the wildman" with the turtleman,lol. That show is so stupid but i cant turn it off.i laugh the the whole time

    LIVE ACTION....TURTLEMAN STYLE!!
     
  12. jd45

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    My uncle used to say "You don't have to walk around with your pants down all the time to prove you're a man.", yet it seems that's what this Will Heyden pretty much does. Anyway I'm gonna watch this episode for the info & grins hoping there'll be some of both, & check this forum for more info on the .458 socom as well. Who knows, maybe I'll get the AR bug myself one day. jd45
     
  13. JonM

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    a number of us have socoms here built different ways. while you CAN suppress one its really not a terribly loud round to begin with. running subsonics you basically are wasting pricey 458 caliber bullets to get 45acp ballistics...

    the socom really shines with full power loads. a better candidate for suppression is the 450 bushmaster because it uses pistol bullets in the 230grain range and up you can load it subsonic cheaply without buying more pricey 458's

    redjacket suppressors are pretty much crap. little better than a hunk of threaded pipe from the local hardware store. so it doesnt surprise me they only list integral suppressed devices on their webpage. cant really tell how crappy their poi shift is if the end user cant take it off. heh.
     
  14. Quentin

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    Thanks for the tip, MJ. I went to http://vickerstactical.com/ and it looks like Tac TV will be available online soon. Good deal. I'm a cable/satellite holdout, especially since HDTV over the air is beautiful. But then have to hit the sports bars occasionally to catch a big game though.
     
  15. jd45

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    So Jon, if as you say, the .458 SOCOM really shines with full-power loads, and speaking of suppression, what's the newest technology employed in dealing with recoil in full auto mode? Just curious.....I know a person must purchase a special, expensive lisence to own a full auto capable firearm. jd45
     
  16. ScottA

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    What they are going to do is integrally suppress it, then tie 12 of them together that all fire sequentially through rotating fan blades and knock a house down with them.
     
  17. jd45

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    That was REALLY funny Scott, and I'm not being sarcastic! jd45
     
  18. mjkeat

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    All while doing cartwheels :D
     
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    Hahaha that is funny.. so true!
     
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    Lol and to hijack the thread, no wonder Vince left. He took a call from his preggo wife and Will made a big deal about personal time
    I have to say, the acting as got a little lower key on the parts of kris and vince.