Some legal questions?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by tattooartist, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. tattooartist

    tattooartist New Member

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    Hello my name is Shane, I'm a 34 year old tattooer from the northshore. I have wanted to get my license to carry concealed or otherwise for sometime now. A lot of people have told me I wouldn't be able to get a gun permit at all because of my past. Here is my question. I have been arrested but never as an adult, never for a violent crime, and I was never convicted of any crimes, also as a minor I was committed by the police into a hospital. Which brings up my mental health history. These things happened over 15 years ago on some stupid typical teenager shenanigans. I was wondering if there was a way to fight for my right to protect myself and my family? If any of this would really be a problem at all? And what steps I should take first? I live in a bad neighborhood in a well knwith tuff city with my wife and two young boys, and work in a cash business until late at night, and would feel much better knowing my family and myself where protected. Any advice, suggestions, and knowledge would be appreciated and helpful.
    Sincerely Shane kamerik
    Imsoawkward.com
     
  2. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Not sure if this will help but you can start here...:cool:

    Click on your state...

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/

    May not be a bad idea to talk to a lawyer that specializes in firearms laws as well...
     

  3. tattooartist

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    Thanks, it is a start. For the record I'm in mass, and thought this was a massachussetts forum. Sorry about that.
     
  4. vincent

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  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Shane, I moved your thread over to concealed carry category.

    ReF: North Shore- sorry, I'm from Virginia- we have an Eastern Shore!

    Back to your question- Mass is a tough state. Period. Cannot speak to State law there with any knowledge, but let's talk FEDERAL law, which can be stricter than State law.

    IF you were adjudged (root word there is JUDGE) mentally incompetent, and were involuntarily committed to a medical facility for psych TREATMENT, that is a disqualifier. Re: Criminal- while generally a juvenile's criminal record stays behind when he becomes an adult, a juvenile found "not innocent" of an offense that would be a felony IF committed by an adult- disqualfier.

    In any event, you are going to need an attorney- to check qualification, and if needed, to petition for restoration of rights. Needs to be a member of the Mass. Bar.

    If you want your thread moved over to Mass forum, just drop me a private message, and I can shift it for you- but thought this might be more productive.

    In the meantime, look at what other defensive items you CAN use/ carry. Hint- maglite flashlights are very durable.
     
  6. GeneralPatton

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    Now, I'm by no means a legal expert nor do I offer any legal advice. But, given all you posted, and this may be way wrong, why not just apply and see what happens. IF they come back on you you can always say you thought it was a sealed matter from your juvenile days. What's the worst that can happen? They say no and if you want to fight that decision you retain an attorney. Of course, I don't know you, and this is assuming you aren't a mental case today (no offense, of course). Go read an ATF form 4473. The 15 or so questions on that form determine eligibility.
     
  7. phildenton

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    Id listen to c3. Get a 2a lawyer. Lying or omitting info on an app will land you behind bars.
     
  8. GeneralPatton

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    Woah now hoss. I didn't say lie or omit, I said just fill it out and see what happens. You wouldn't make it past the background check if you didn't qualify, so lying would do no good anyway.
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    C3 is correct. the best place to start is with an attorney. he can get any all his records and if they could be disqualifiers, then the attorney can petition the court for an expungement of the record. IIRC, this is the only legal way with the exception of a pardon, which has to come from the governor of that state of getting his record cleaned up and legally able to own a firearm.

    OP, get an attorney and let him handle it.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    if you answer yes to any of those questions that require a truthful no answer, then the FFL dealer is not even going to do a background check. it would already be disqualified.
     
  11. GrtWhytHype

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    I gotta agree with the general on this. Now let me say I'm in Florida and its my understanding that they're a little more relaxed when it comes to permits here vs. Mass but, other than the mental stuff I was in the same boat as you. Teenage record but no felonies. I applied and answered all of the questions truthfully and received my permit two months later. As long as you don't lie and process your paper work how they say you should, then the worst they can do is deny you.
     
  12. GeneralPatton

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    See here, and granted this isn't Mass so it's likely different, the Governor doesn't have the power to do that. Your one shot is the DA where whatever occurred is recorded. Of course, if it was an adjuncation (that's spelled wrong, I forget the word but it comes after the completion of like a First Offender status) then it's not required that you mention it nor does it show on any records other than the FBI, CIA, those 3 letter Federal guys basically but that doesn't disallow you a permit.
     
  13. DLeeHarley

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    I'm an old ex-surfer so when he said North Shore, I immediately thought of Hawaii's north shore of Oahu.
     
  14. phildenton

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    Never been to oahus north shore, but sure enjoyed Kauais.
     
  15. tattooartist

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    I lived in aiea, right outside pearl city for about about a year. The north shore was amazing.