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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by GREGULON, Apr 13, 2012.
Starting the search for the long range kill. Trying to stay around $400.
depends on what you think is long range and what your trying to kill, savage makes a 17hmr with a two stage trigger and a bull barrel for around $350, H&R make a 223 single shot bull barrel I found one at my local gun shop for $230, or if you want to get a 30.06 or even a 308 in a hunting rifle configuration.
Just to give you some ideas, I bought the same 17hmr and I've kill crows out to 150 to 200 yards with it, for my long range shooting and deer season I use either a remington 7mm rem mag or my 91/30 mosin nagant. The longest I've shot with the 7mm mag is 800 yards and it still has it's factory barrel, the longest I've shot with my mosin is around 300 yards.
It all depends on the game your after. Big game I'd go with a BLR in .308, long, flat trajectory, not bad recoil. Really big game (bear, moose, etc) .300 win mag. Hell of a kick but it's not as bad as a 7 mag and it'll put them down. For Medium game there is nothing like a good old 30/30. Good luck in your hunt.
The best hunting rifle is the one you shoot best and make clean humane kills with.
A .308 in just about any current production rifle will cover almost any need in north America, and some can be found brand new as a scoped rifle package for 350ish.
A .30-06 can kill anything on this continent, and has been used in African big game hunting too, and can be found for reasonable prices.
Milsurp rifles chambered in .30-06 can be found pretty cheap. The Mosin Nagant is REAL cheap, and is comparable to the .30-06.
Anything else falls into personal preference or penis measuring games.
Marlin x7 or a savage 110 or 111 if u are wanting a long range varmint rifle then a 22-250 will get the job done out to about 500-600 big game would be 243 ,308,270 ,30-06 ,300win mag or 7mm mag
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You got options it depends what species of game your after. Weatherby vanguard, rem700 adl, the new ruger american, savage axis, marlin x7, stevens 200, the list goes on. For long range I'm not the guy to ask. For a good hunting rifle I'd buy an always reliable Remington or possibly the weatherby for a smoother action. Calibers varmint 22-250 223 deer sized game 270 30-06 308 larger game (elk moose grizzly) 300wsm 338wby.
I haven't shot it long range but my 300 Remington UM is supposed to be a tack driver at the long range game. Mines a R700 sendaro SF but I'm sure they make it in other rifles. Get a good recoil pad though.
Why that old ugly rattly outdated rainbow trajectory inaccurate leg braking shoulder slamming Model 94 .30-30 of course.
What are you hunting? What do you consider long range? Everybody has a favorite caliber or rifle so unless we know what you want to do, we are just guessing.
Trip: The 30-30 has been used in Africa so it is no claim to fame.
50BMG! no... but i think a 338 win mag will suit you well. cross canyon caliber and wouldnt have to think twice about making that kill shot on an elk or moose far away... 338 wm has the power you need for all of north america. everything from lil deer to big bear. It's my all round rifle. 30-06 and 308 will be my next choices. i dont like the 300wm much bc it's a barrel burner if you shoot a lot, my dad had to change rifle barrels after shootin 1400+/- out of it. dont get me wrong, but a 300wm is great for hunting.
I'd pick between 338wm, 30-06 and a 308. all those calibers are sold at a ton of stores as well so would be a problem to find...even in alaska.
The Remington 770 in 30-06 is a good shooter, I can't give it much else. Dad hunts with a Camo/Stainless one every year. He says the same thing. Accurate and budget minded, but a 700 it aint.
I'd also recommend a Marlin 30-30 if the ranges were reasonable.
I bought a remington 710 7mm magnum for 100 dollars. Its been a good rifle it even has a user adjustable trigger
you need to determine what game you want to hunt and what you are considering long range. this will be pretty much the defining factor in choosing a caliber and a type of rifle to hunt with. some calibers are more versatile than others, because of a wide range of different bullet weights. another consideration in caliber choice, are you going to hunt game animals like deer? because some states have a minimum caliber restriction to adhere to. if considering a larger caliber, are you use to shooting larger calibers? some can be somewhat brutal in recoil and really pound your shoulder. are you more interested in a bolt action? lever action? semi auto? many different choices and calibers.
Axxe brings up some great points. Firearms for "long range" are like Baskins and Robbins, tons of variety and choices. Between platforms and calibers the choices are endless, almost. I know what my favorite platforms and calibers are, but that comes from years of trying different firearms.
thanks, JP. everyone has caliber choices that they like better than others. one of my all time favorites is the 25-06, reason is, loaded with lighter weight bullets it makes a good varmint caliber for smaller animal like woodchucks, foxes, and coyotes. loaded with heavier bullets, work great on medium sized deer and similiar sized animals. easy as far as recoil, easy to reload for and very accurate caliber. another one of my recent calibers that is becoming one of my favorites, the 7mm-08. very good caliber and very accurate. the 30-06 will always be one of my favorites, and anything based off the 30-06 is usually pretty much liked by me. one i haven't tried yet based off the 30-06, that i want is the 35 Whelen. there are so many different choices, kind of like JP mentioned, like going to Baskin & Robbins!
Axxe, you were clear and to the point. Axxe likes U.S. calibers or standard calibers. I like old Metric calibers. Both do the same thing, but have slightly different personalities. One of my favorites is a 6.5x55. I can load 100gr for vermin and 160gr for Elk. That is pretty versitile. Similar to the .25-06 that axxe uses. I shoot 7mm's, but not a 7mm-08 which is a great caliber. I still will load up my 7mm Rem Mag for vermin, just for fun. I'm not a .30-06 guy, but 8x57 which is so close and the .30-06's dad. I like .308, even .223 in the right platform that fits me and my style. Odd part is I like firearms that are made for people that were 5'8" max and extend the butt. I love old firearms. If you bought a .257 Roberts and became good w/ it, you would be very happy. I really like 9.3x57, not long range, but a serious thumper that is on the low end of calibers like the .35 Whelen and 9.3x62. Can't say what is best, that is your call.
JP, i am coming around to the metric calibers. one i shot last year for a friend zeroeing the scope for him was a Winchester M70 in 6.5x55. i absolutely have this one on my to find list. i really do like it a lot. very accurate and mild recoil. i would also like to add an 8mm of some sort to the mix also. maybe a newer bolt action chambered in 8x57. just recently i added a 280 Rem. to the collection in an older Ruger M77v, which is a 30-06 necked down to a 7mm. absolutely love it's accuracy. so i am starting to lean towards the metric calibers too. but we all have our favorites. kind of like if we all liked the same things, it sure would be a boring world.
A good hunting rifle is whatever you like that will take down what your hunting. I have killed most my deer with a model 94 lever action 30 30. But have also killed some with my 7.62 r moslin naget and my 50 cal black power cva hawkin
I got my marlin 30-30 for $500 you could find it cheaper if you look around. Its a accurate reliable gun
perfect for deer, hog, and it can even get bear