So I'm at the range . . .

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by ddog, May 22, 2010.

  1. ddog

    ddog New Member

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    I'm finishing up and putting my gear away when the guy in the next lane starts rapid firing his rifle. AR style; looked like .308. Anyhow, w/n a minute, the range instructor comes in and loudly (indoor range. everyone's got their ear protection) tells the guy not to rapid fire. There's no rapid firing at any of the ranges around here and that rule is CLEARLY made known at this range. Always. Anyhow, the guy immediately packs up and then starts cussing out the staff. Says they're rude, disrespectful, etc. He leaves, having used the range for maybe 10 shots. The staff was calm with him and didn't even charge him. I thanked them for their professionalism and said they weren't rude. They have liability concerns, safety concerns . . . and it's not like there are a ton of ranges here in California. The owner looked at me, thanked me, and gave me a card for a free range session. Works for me :D
     
  2. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    It never hurts to be nice.
     

  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    The AR guy was rude. Range rules are the rules. Abide by them or go elsewhere.
     
  4. wb_carpenter

    wb_carpenter New Member

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    I was at the range yesterday and some jackhole was handling his gun during a cold range on the firing line. The range officer told him to get behind the line to which he muttered a bunch of smart ass remarks. The range officer(state managed range and he was state police) got 6 inches away from his nose and very sternly told him that he will obey the rules and respect the officers or leave. We set up our targets at 25 yards I asked him if he was shooting the target behind his and he got huffy and rolled his eyes..(i ignored him) i guess He got his feelings hurt but he made a wise crack at my G/F about her capability to handle a firearm. I told him off and stated my case to why she could shoot 1000 circles around him(he was shooting 7 yards away and missing/my girlfreind was putting ragged holes in the target at 25 yards) the range officer came over after the commotion and forcefully escorted the guy off the range and stated if he came back he would be arrested for trespassing. He changed his tone and asked how long to which the officer replied until a judge says you may come back and that he would go out of his way to make sure that didn't happen. It was oohhh so sweet justice.
     
  5. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    I'm surprised my range doesn't have problems like this. The only people on the range are shooters, no range master or anything. I guess that all the shooters are on the same page with safety, etiquette, and respect. I should probably knock on wood now.
     
  6. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Slow fire rules on ranges are BS. They are only intact to prevent the inexperienced shooter from being a jackass, thus disallowing the experienced shooter from proper practice,.
     
  7. deathkricket

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    Not to mention how some ranges only allow you to load a few rounds per mag, like making you load 10 rounds at a time in a 30 round mag.........
     
  8. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Slow fire rules are there for a reason. I don't like them but I've been shooting long enough to to stay on target with a fast rate of fire. If I were in a range and some newbie shows up and starts blasting away and obviously has little or no control over his weapon he is a danger to everyone there.

    Do slow fire rules suck? Sure they do but they have a purpose and as a range owner you have to consider that.
     
  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Thumbs-up. Slow fire rules suck, but the safety factor is key. Because others have demonstrated un-safe rapid fire, the rest have to suffer.
     
  10. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    I agree with the others. Range safety trumps my need to practice rapid fire.
     
  11. jakebrake

    jakebrake New Member

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    amen. some folks don't realize, just because you own it, doesn't mean you know how to use it. just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
     
  12. WannaGator

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    Wish I Had A Range To Go To

    Wish I had a range to go to.

    I guarantee I wouldn't be a Horse's Backside to the staff.
     
  13. NGIB

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    Range rules exist for the same reason most gun stores have signs saying "no loaded firearms" allowed. They aren't really worried about the safety conscious folks with carry permits - they're worried about the idiots. I have seen more than my share of idiots at the ranges I visit...
     
  14. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    I won't buy a gun from a store with that sign. They don't want you carrying concealed, but they would sell you a gun in a heartbeat? :rolleyes:
     
  15. KalashnikovJosh

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    A private range is someone elses' property.
    Abide their wishes as to your conduct while a guest on their premises or leave.

    A state range is community property.
    Its maintained at the expense of the taxpayer for everyone to enjoy.
    The rules are there to ensure that people respect each other and that safety is maintained.
    When people dont obey them,by being petty little jerks and not cleaning up after themselves or by being outright dangerous and showing up to shoot when drunk(dont ask)-there is a high likelihood that this kind of range might receive bad publicity because of an accident or might fall short on funding because of maintenance costs and could be shut down.
    Please obey the rules on state ranges.

    The best alternative,if you'd like to shoot however you damn well please,is to get some land of your own.
    That way,you can rapid fire all you want,make all the smart ass comments you want,drunkenly mishandle your guns all you want-and if/when you hurt yourself you have only yourself to blame,no one to sue,and you haven't screwed it up for the rest of us.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2010
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I handled a call a few years ago where a guy was driving down the road and caught a bullet through the windshield, rear view mirror, out back window, hit tailgate and fell between tailgate and truck bed.

    The bullet tumbled and left holes that closely resembled a 7.62 X 39 bullet. Turns out the nearby range pointed directly at a section of the highway. Jackass rapid firing an AK departed just before our arrival. Range owner did not have a range officer on staff and did not have any info on the shooter. Range insurance had to eat that one. Lucky for everyone, no injuries.
     
  17. Hunt SD

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    Glad I dont have to deal with ranges. Im so glad my family has quite a bit of land to shoot on and shoot what I want and how fast or slow I want. I feel lucky.
     
  18. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    You are blessed.

    As long as you make sure you have a good backstop to protect against any possibility of rounds leaving your property-you can train any way you want to your hearts content.

    Aint being American and having property rights a beautiful thing?
     
  19. deathkricket

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    There is a gun store up here that if you bring your gun in to get it looked at, they take it from you, put a lock on the trigger, and walk it to the counter, and if you buy a gun, they wont let you touch it after you buy it, they walk it around for you and out the door, kinda blew my mind when i bought a gun there a few weeks ago, i had to wait like 20 mins before someone came to carry my gun to the parking lot, reminded me of wal mart
     
  20. zhuk

    zhuk New Member

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    You ARE lucky!

    Even if I owned land here (and had a "primary producer" firearms licence) I still would not be allowed to set up any kind of permanent targets on my land. If a farmer needs to zero his rifles - purely for the purpose of feral animal control, I might add - he may put up an individual, removable target only.

    No one may do any type of shooting that extends beyound basic zeroing into any informal 'competition' territory, as certified & registered ROs are not present. So no just having a go against your friends!


    Really...you guys don't realise how lucky you are>Cherish & protect those rights! :D