So . . . am I dead meat?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by txpossum, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    There is another thread on the forum asking the question "if there were no semi-automatics, what rifle would you use in battle", or words to that effect.

    As I don't own an AR-15, AK 47, or even an SKS, I've thought about this. I alternate between a bolt action 30-06 or a lever action 30-30. But my rationale is that I'd only use a rifle as my primary weapon for ranges over 50 yards, and for closer encounters I'd use one or more 1911's as my primary weapon. I am more familiar with the 1911 than anything else, am reasonably proficient with them, and at 50 yards and under believe that I would be more effective with one than with any other gun I own.

    Overconfident? Mebbe. But pistols are my first love, and I am much more instinctive with the 1911 than anything else, and wouldn't feel undergunned.

    So . . . am I a modern day Hipshot Percussion (showing my age here) or merely delusional?
     

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  2. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    I dunno.. at 50 yards no matter how good you w/ a handgun, just about any guy with a long arm will be better. just my 2 cents :)
     
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  3. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    not delusional at all. lots of people are good pistol shots and if you practice and can hit what you aim at at that yardage, then i see no problem.
     
  4. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    So how much energy in foot pounds is your 45acp at 50 yards, and what if the opposing army is wearing battle gear?
     
  5. txpossum

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    I realize that practice could cure this, but I've shot the M-16 and AR-15;and owned a Russian SKS and a Mini-14, but they just didn't feel right and I didn't especially enjoy shooting them. I did like the M-14, which I why I am considering a M1A. But a properly tuned 1911 . . . that makes music.
     
  6. txpossum

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    It'll just slow 'em down.

    Seriously . . . if I've got an army after me, I'm so ****ed anyway that it won't make that much difference.
     
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  7. Anna_Purna

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    And so what if they are not out in the open, like a gunfight at the ok corral, and hiding behind a log or some kind of cover. Then what? With something like an AK-47, and steel core bullets, a lot of your cover may not be so protective.
     
  8. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Oh. So if I have an AR-15 the log I'm hiding behind will be harder?
     
  9. nitestalker

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    During the Irish Revolution 2 Irish snipers had 240 confirmed kills using the C96 Mauser Pistols with detachable shoulder stocks. The "Brits" were armed with the .303 Enfelds. The 7.63 X 25 cartridge carried a 90 Grs. FMJ at 1,400 Fps. many of the kills were at 100 yards. The Irish referred to the Broom Handle Mauser as "Peter the Painter" . Old Peter mad it rough on the Red Coats.:)

    These were serious battle weapons for 2 world wars and many revolutions.;)
     

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  10. txpossum

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    Éirinn go Brách
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    dont forget han solo used one too. he put down lots of dudes in armor suits with a c96
     
  12. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Hans was a good man with a pistol.
     
  13. TLuker

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    You would probably be in trouble with the pistols at 50 yards? With a pistol you're shooting at body mass and hoping to get a hit. With a rifle you're picking the spot you want to hit. Add a few trees or other obstacles in the way and it would be tough with a pistol.

    I've used a pistol and hunted a lot with a target pistol years ago. They can be effective but I'll take a rifle every time over a pistol, but I'm also extremely comfortable with a rifle.

    Now if you just really suck with a rifle then it's a different story.

    Just my .02:)
     
  14. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Do trees get out of the way with a rifle? A pistol is flexible and fast handling. And, in a firefight, you guys are aiming for a headshot each time?
     
  15. nitestalker

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    People not familiar handguns believe they are only good at short ranges. Shooting at mass at 50 yards? Not really practiced hand gunners with proper weapons can be very effective at 100 yards. I would suggest you attend some handgun competitions.:)
     
  16. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You don't? :confused:
     
  17. yazul42

    yazul42 Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I like the M1A idea,,,, I would not want to wait for a group of aggressors to get within 50 yards of me before I felt confident returning fire, if such a situation should arise. To me, a rifle is a far superior to a handgun and in some situations, a shotgun can be better than either. I just as soon not have to find out but it pays to be careful and prepared.
     
  18. txpossum

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    I have. Used to shoot bullseye, and later attended a combat pistol course at the Texas Pistol Academy.

    One of the standard courses of fire in Bullseye is 50 yards. And I do have a bolt or lever action for distances longer than 50 yards; it not my only weapon, just my primary at short distances.
     
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  19. txpossum

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    Not since that unfortunate misunderstanding that I don't like to speak about.
     
  20. Donn

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    Delusional? Maybe just a little. I'm partial to the 1911 as well. More range and tactical time than with anything else. Pro shooters aside, I'm as good with it as anyone I've ever seen. That said, I'm also a firm believer if there's gonna be a gunfight, I want something that takes two hands to carry/operate. A handgun, any handgun, is strictly back-up. In fact, I'd seriously consider leaving it behind to make more room for long gun ammo.
     
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