Snub 44M

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by mahall, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. mahall

    mahall New Member

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    Looking for a CC 44M to conceal!! Is there any worth owning?? I know Taurus has a nice looking one, found in there small frame Series!! But..... Is it worth owning??
     
  2. triggerjob

    triggerjob New Member

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    Only if you never shoot it except in self defense. Light compact .44 aren't exactly shooter friendly.

    I once held a titanium snubby .44 I think it was a taurus. It felt nice but I didn't shoot it. THe guy who owned it told me he only shot it once. Litteraly 1 shot. Then he laughed and said he didn't buy it for recreational shooting anyway.

    I have a 4" mod 19-2, which I had ported which is shootable but it weigh a friggin tonne.
     
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  3. mahall

    mahall New Member

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    I knew that!! Just was hoping someone recently made a great discovery!! My small 357 kicks enough!!
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    The great discovery is that physics don't change.

    Another great discovery is that .44 special loads are not so bad in most magnum revolvers. Kind of like shooting a .45 ACP.
     
  5. rifleman1

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    you could always shoot 44spcl through the 44mag when you want to shoot for recreation and carry the real stuff for self defense.
     
  6. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I'd be worried that I would

    shoot thru the B/G and

    hit my truck. .44 Mag

    penetration at close range is

    very deep.

    A 45ACP will put a dent on a

    BBQ gas tank. A 44 goes through the first

    two tanks, then puts a major dent

    in the third in line.
     
  7. mahall

    mahall New Member

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    So in theory a 44 mag is to powerful for close range, a HP round would likely go through someone before mushrooming out and doing the lethal damage that the round is intended to do!! Apposed to a 357 HP round with less power but big enough to spread its wings and do intended damage!! Plus the point you made! Whatever is behind the 44M shot will likely get hit!! Is this the bases that 357m is actual more practical for HD than 44m?? I
     
  8. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Double Tap used to make a load they called "Tactical" for the .44. It was a 200 gr Speer Gold Dot HP (originally intended for the .44 spl) at 1000 fps. It was schweet in a 4" Smith. It would certainly be reasonable in a snub. The gaping hollow point of that 200 gr GD will expand violently and the reasonable velocity will keep over penetration to a minimum. I do not see it catalogued any longer, probably because Gold Dots are so had to come by these days.
     
  9. hardluk1

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    Use a load designed for your need?? A 357mag with a 125gr is a great presonal defence. Probably the best. But use some heavy HP , sp or hardcast and it will pass thru with enought nergy to kill someone else. Drop down to a 38sp+P and its still a good man stopped. Same goes for a 44 mag. Use the right load for the job.

    With a 357 or 44 that will see trail use atleast buy a 4" barrel if for nothing but a longer sight radius.
     
  10. aandabooks

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    If you're not willing to practice with he gun due to it no being comfortable to shoot, why would you carry it and depend on it to protect your life?

    I would not buy a gun for carry that I wouldn't want to put several hundred rounds through. I want to be comfortable with whatever I choose to carry.
     
  11. rifleman1

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    i have a few friends that carry a 357 snub noses and they shoot 38s when they shoot at the range and carry 357 rounds for self defense,i think as long as you practice some with the heavy rounds and know what to expect you should be ok.
     
  12. aandabooks

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    What happens when the situation you are in is not at belly gun range and you are only carrying a belly gun?

    I can definately see this. I have a 642 that I practice with my .38 reloads and occasionally shoot +p. But to have a gun that I have only fired once due to recoil would make me rethink my decision.
     
  13. ttsl

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    yeah, but if all it delivers is .45 acp performance why not have something that is MUCH easier to ccw and to control in rapidfire, hmm? :) Like an alloy framed compact version of the 1911. Take a look at the LDA ParaOrdnance, if you don't like cocked and locked carry of an auto. That is one very sweet DA trigger pull!

    I got a newsflash for you, EVERYBODY misses the vitals a lot, in pistol combat, even at a mere 10 ft of range. Without ear protection, the blast makes you flinch. Most often, it's bad light, and the muzzle flashes ruin your night vision. If you knew enough to get on an electronic timer, and compare your times to what the top guys get with ccw autoloaders, or to what punks can do with a .22 autoloader, you'd KNOW that snubby magnums are a very bad idea. Ditto if you shot some animals with them. They don't get enough velocity to reliably expand a jhp in flesh, guys.
     
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  14. mdauben

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    A small frame .44 mag? I've never seen one. Not sure you could fit even a 5 shot .44 cylinder in a J frame size revolver?

    I know S&W until recently made both a .44 mag and .44spl snubbie in their "Night Guard" line. The mag was a 6 shot using the same large frame as their full size 629 revolvers, although it was an alloy frame for weight savings. The .44spl was I *think* a 5 shot using the same medium size frame as the 686 revolver (but again, in alloy). Both were smaller and lighter than a normal 4 inch combat revolver but by no means were they pocket guns.

    Charter arms also makes a snubbie in .44spl although I have never handled one.

    I think the .44spl makes more sense as a SD round than the .44 mag. It seems most people end up using reduced power loads in the magnum to control recoil. If you are going to do that, why not just go with the .44 spl to start with? An added advantage is that .44 spl can be had in smaller guns than its magnum powered brother.
     
  15. HOSSFLY

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    Both those statement merit a few remarks (not to mention corrections) but i ain't gonna do it-Don't care enough to spend the time or energy to answer more than one stupid remark a day & i hit my Quota-----
    :rolleyes:
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    please explain how hollowpoints are a marketing gimmick? very curious as to why you would think that.
     
  17. HOSSFLY

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    And the hits just keepa comming (from the same source) :rolleyes:
     
  18. SSGN_Doc

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    So shooting a handgun is hard for cops who have training, but it's easy, because thugs with no training do it all the time?

    Shooting revolvers is easy?

    And I'm probably reading in between the lines that executing a preplanned attack is as stressful and disjointed as trying to keep your wits and operate smoothly when you are reacting, versus initiating action.
     
  19. triggerjob

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    Cops can't hit in a shootout because they're training sucks.

    Thugs kill in a shootout because they have no crappy training in they way of their intent to kill.

    The simple fact is shooting a handgun is no more difficult than pointing your finger.

    Self defense shooting takes place at such close ranges the things you learn about "site picture" etc. Are useless and in fact a handicap.

    The original "glock" design had NO, repeat NO sites. Site we added because of marketing reasons.

    Police generally miss they're shots because they are taught to Aim by looking at their front site, invariably they do it and either shoot high, or to the right.

    At pistol ranges shooting human sized targets, aiming is not only not neccesary but is a hinderance.

    If you don't believe me, just tae out a few siloette targets, take five steps away and draw and shoot them without aiming.

    Please don't mistake what I'm saying with 'target' shooting or 'competitive' shooting.

    This is for killing bad guys in self defense.

    Incidently, this is not my 'theory' it has been taught to elite military units in the US since ww2. I learned it watching a black ad white .45 acp army training video. Its works.

    Revolvers are easy and more reliable because they don't have safties to learn or forget about, and generally they don't need to be cocked first.

    Again if you think I'm full of crap, break out the targets and try.
     
  20. triggerjob

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    Rex Applegate has a little book that goes into it.

    Its been a while since I've read it but I believe it is called

    "Shooting to Live" or "Istinctive Shooting" or something like that. The book is still in print, its an old classic.