Smith & Wesson Performance Center .44MAG 6" weighted barrel competitor

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  1. Rick Edwards

    Rick Edwards New Member

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    I am considering this revolver to hunt deer. Unfortunately, I have found limited information regarding this model. This will be my first hand gun. Any reviews on this gun would be helpful.
     
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  2. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    This is a tough one. I have several S&W 629 44 mags and each one has its merits. I also have a Ruger Bisley 44 Magnum. The heaviest of my 44 Magnums' is my Performance Center 44 Magnum Hunter Plus.

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    This particular pistol has a custom-made Walther progressive twist 7.5" barrel, a full underlug & plank side with a scope rail. It's deadly accurate to about 125 yards with a standard 2X pistol scope.

    My other Smith & Wesson is a "629 CLASSIC". It has a 6.5" barrel with a full underlug. It has an optional scope mount but I use the iron sights on this one.

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    This 44 is accurate to about 75 yards if you can see your target with the iron sights. However, it does best at about 50 yards. Because it's considerably lighter than the S&W 44 Mag Hunter Plus, it has a lot more "felt recoil" with maximum loads.

    This is my "BAD BOY" 44 Magnum. It's a Ruger BISLEY 44 Magnum. This pistol will shoot super hot loads that no other 44 Magnum can handle, including my S&W Hunter Plus.

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    It's deadly accurate with iron sights up to about 75 yards and it has about 20% more knockdown power than my Smith & Wesson's. The felt recoil with the Bisley is brutal as it is the lightest of my 44's, and shoots the hottest loads. My typical load is a 330 grain hard cast bullet powered with 25.5 grains of H110 powder, ignited with CCI Magnum primers. My S&W's do best with 240 grain factory loads.

    For North American Deer hunting any of these 44' Mags will work well. When I hunt for Feral Pigs, I use my Bisley exclusively. My S&W Hunter Plus is best for long-range shots, but it's also my most expensive 44 Mag as well.
     
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  3. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Rick,

    As you can see, I'm a 44 Mag fanatic. The reason you don't see much on the Performance Center 44 Magnum is they are expensive. My Hunter Plus with a custom barrel was about $1600.00 and another 350.00 for the Bushnell Holoscope. That's a lot of money for a 44 Magnum.

    For just plain ol' aim and knock em' down power... my Ruger Bisley wins hands down and it was about one third the price of the Performance Center 44.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my PC 44 Magnum Hunter Plus! It has a fit & finish that Ruger can only dream about! But if money is a factor, you may want to consider a Ruger.
     
  4. Rick Edwards

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    This particular pistol has a custom-made Walther progressive twist 7.5" barrel, a full underlug & plank side with a scope rail. It's deadly accurate to about 125 yards with a standard 2X pistol scope.


    How much did you spend on your custom 7" barrel? Did you send your gun to the PC for the custom barrel install? It sounds like the longer barrel is the way to go in regards to accuracy. What brand of scope is that? How often do you have to dial it in? I have to say I like the weight and look of this model. Although some of the load specs are new to me, I'm a quick learner. Your insite is really appreciated.
     
  5. Rick Edwards

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  6. Bob Wright

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    As Mark F. has point out, you don't really need a specially set-up Smith for deer hunting. Here is my Model 29 set up with a full lug barrel. The barrel was originall 8 3/8" but I had it cut back to 6" to make it a little handier. The gun originall came with a 6" standard barrel, but I had Smith rebarrel it for me. They gave me the 8 3/8" which I later had cut back to 6".

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    And, as Mark said, a Ruger will do just fine, either as he prefers, the Bisley, or a Super Blackhawk, which I prefer. Just keep your shots within your capabilities and you'll do all right.

    Just for brags, here's my Super Blackhawk:

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    Bob Wright
     
  7. Rick Edwards

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    Just for brags, here's my Super Blackhawk:

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    First I've seen of the Super Blackhawk.
     
  8. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Rick,

    44 Magnums in general are well proven and affordable hunting pistols. You don't need the specialty stuff like my PC Hunter Plus. While these custom items probably make a slight difference in accuracy, a rock solid Ruger Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk will perform great. Ruger makes a Super Blackhawk Hunter with a 7.5" barrel and machined scope lugs in the top strap & rib. It's a shooting machine! You will be able to keep 6 shots on a quarter at 75 yards.

    The "scope" on my PC is a Bushnell HOLO Sight Red dot. It has no magnification but utilizes a 2.5 MOA laser dot. Once it's calibrated it never needs adjusting again unless you sight it in at a different distance. It works very good, but I still prefer iron sights! Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I really like the feel and looks of a basic 44 Magnum.


    Bob Wright has a fine collection of Super Blackhawks and Model 29's to boot.

    You just can't go wrong with a Ruger... one of my favorites is my Ruger Vaquero 44 Mag.
     

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  9. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Rick,

    I forgot to mention, all of the custom work to my Hunter Plus was done at Smith & Wesson.
     
  10. Bob Wright

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    First I've seen of the Super Blackhawk.[/QUOTE]


    You're kidding, right?

    Bob Wright
     
  11. Rick Edwards

    Rick Edwards New Member

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    Really...I'm a newbe in the pistal relm.
     
  12. J_B

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    You would do real well getting a Smith & Wesson PC 629 for hunting with, I may own one some day but have to be satisfied with what I have now because I have to replace my hearing aids.
     
  13. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Virtually every shop that has pistols will have Rugers, all kinds of Rugers. They'll likely have Smith & Wesson's too. But they probably won't have PC 629's unless they are trade-ins or a bigger gunshop.
     
  14. Mark F

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    I have shot 460's but don't own one. Unless you reload, this will be an expensive plinker to shoot. 460 ammo runs from about $1.20 a round to over $3.00. That adds up fast. I reload 44 Magnums and average about twenty four cents a round for target loads and about thirty cents for hunting/SD rounds.
     
  15. Bob Wright

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    I apologize if I sounded condescending, I assumed that if you were familiar with the Bisley you'd be familiar with the Super Blackhawk.

    The ones I pictured are Old Model, pre-'73 guns, the newer Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks have the transfer bar just as the Bisley Models do. I prefer the Three-Screw Models because, well, just because I do. They are more akin to the older Colts, with which I am more familiar.

    I'm sort of a traditional ol' cuss, I reckon. I lean more toward the revolver in this day of the wonder nines and such ilk.

    Bob Wright
     
  16. Korben7p3c

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    Mark F.

    ...I sent you a PM w/? about the 629 Classic. Info and help appreciated.
    Tim.

     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I sent you a reply...
     
  18. hunter Joe

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    I hunter whitetails with a Ruger Super Black Hawk Bisley with a red dot scope mounted on it. The only problem was that it was real accurate out to 50 yds.

    I was shooting 180 gr. Hornady XTP hand loads. I took a couple of deer with it and then one fateful day I shot at doe at 45 yds. I made a good hit on her , although, the bullet did not pass through her and I lost the blood trail. The coyotes found her before I did the next day and there was not much left of the doe. That ended my handgun hunting career.

    In hindsight I probably should have been shooting 240 gr. bullets. This may have got me the penetration I needed at distances over 25 yds.

    Next season I am going to get it another go, but I going to use my Encore with a 15" barrel in .308 cal.

    It is important to know your firearms limitations. Like everything else, I found out the hard way. Hunter Joe
     
  19. Mark F

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    That was a tough lesson. I use 240 and 305 hard cast in my 44. 50 yards is still the limit. I have occasionally taken good shots at 75 yards but you're dealing with a 16" drop. For pig hunting, a 330 grain hard cast drops them in their tracks.
     
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  20. Flat Tire

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    Are you talking 16" of bullet drop at 75 yds ?

    www.winchester.com/products/catalog/handgundetail.aspx?symbol=S44PTHP&bn=5&type=28

    Check the link, I think Winchester is saying 3.3" at 100 yds. I might be wrong or maybe we are talking about two different things.