Smith and Wesson 38 S&W special ctg

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by lehman85, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. lehman85

    lehman85 New Member

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    Hi folks. Newbie to the site and hoping to have some questions answered. I'm looking at buying a Smith and Wesson 38 S&W special us service ctg's pistol from a friend that says his great grandfather rode with Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider. S/n is 340xx. Any help determining the year and value of this would be greatly appreciated. Some minor scratches, light surface rust which i think could be polished out, no pitting, minor wear of the bluing from probably the leather holster. Thanks
     

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  2. coonbait

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    my guess is it looks to be an m&p hand ejecter of 1902, 2nd change, made around 1904
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    I think Coonbait nailed it. Your revolver is the granddaddy of the S&W Military & Police Special, later to become the Model 10, and in turn an ancestor of the various magnum revolvers that used a size K frame. The round butt was the only option until 1904, when a square butt became available. Would not use +P or other high energy golly gee whiz ammo thru it- it was designed for the standard .38 Special, but should do just fine with any of the standard 38 Specials- and is probably a tack driving gun.
     
  4. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The S&W MP was designed in 1898 but was not on the market until 1899. It was made famous when used in the then new .38 Spec. Ctg. The .38 Spec was better than the old .38 S&W in fighting the Moro tribesman. But in the end it took the .45 to go thru the Moro shields and stop them.:eek:
     
  5. lehman85

    lehman85 New Member

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    Awesome guys, thanks. So I would shoot regular 38 special non +P ammo? Also from the pictures and the description, can anyone give me a fair worth on the gun?
     
  6. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Also, considering age and condition I would recommend that you DO NOT buff out any minor scratches. If it is original without having been refinished then it will be worth more in original condition to reflect how well it was actually maintained.

    I've seen old revolvers, 1911s, and Lugers that would have been worth thousands reduced to shooter grade guns in the low to mid hundreds because someone thought they would look nicer refinished.
     
  7. zombieresponder

    zombieresponder New Member

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    Non +p is fine. S&W didn't start heat treating cylinders until the late 30's or early 40's IIRC.
     
  8. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    I sold one last month about the same condition for $225 dollars.:)
     
  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Non +p would be fine. But with a gun that old, I would respect it's age a bit more and shoot low pressure target wadcutters. Just MHO.
     
  10. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    It appears to be a .38 Military & Police Model of 1902 - 1st Change

    Manufactured in 1903/04 a total of 28,645 were produced with the serial number range of 33804 - 62448.

    With your S/N my money is on a 1903 build.

    Book value
    98% $1,475
    95% $1,275
    90% $1,150
    80% $900
    70% $775
    60% $650
    50% $525
    40% $400
    30% $300
    20% $250
    10% $200
     
  11. lehman85

    lehman85 New Member

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    Thanks so much Canebrake