Sks?

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by afi1, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. afi1

    afi1 New Member

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    My friend has a few SKS's, I'm not sure what kind. Anyway, they were fun to shoot and I have been thinking about picking one up. I've done a good bit of reading, and found some decent modifications that can be easily done to improve their accuracy. Namely a good bedded fiberglass stock, the removal of all junk hanging off the barrel and crown job, a trigger job and a receiver mounted rear sight/small front post or a nice and sturdy scope mount. I was just wondering which rifle you would recommend? I'm not trying to get one for pocket change, so price isn't that big of a deal. I just want one that is well built to start with. Are the Russian ones better than others? I'm not too worried about removable mags either, fixed ones are fine by me. Thanks guys.
     
  2. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Generally, yes - and are priced accordingly.
     

  3. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    You may be suprised with the accuracy of a stock SKS. I would shoot w/ a buddy years ago. He used a mini 14, I used a 1953 Russian SKS. At 200 yards he was trying to hit a 2'x2' board that held the targets, I would shoot the 2" posts we used to hold up the board. Good rifles.
     
  4. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    Dupe, please delete!
     
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  5. res45

    res45 New Member

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    As far as SKS rifles go the Russians are the granddaddy of the SKS rifles being the first of there kind but as far as SKS rifles go any SKS in very good to excellent conditions is a good rifle. I own a Chinese and a Yugo I got both of mine for what I would have paid for a Russian if I could have found one. I'm not knocking the Russian SKS by no mean there great rifles but as far as function and accuracy either of my two will hold there own with any Russian out there.

    The main thing to look for regardless of which version you go with is to look at the overall appearance of the rifle inside and out. Fit,finish and condition of the bore and crown of the muzzle,don't waste your money on someone else's bubba project your just asking for trouble. Most of the aftermarket stuff is junk and will prove itself to be that right off the bat or later on after some use the rifle simply works best as it was designed with just a couple minor exceptions.

    One is trigger on some SKS rifles are pretty bad,you can have a nice trigger job done for about $65 here SKS triggers, improve the safety of the SKS carbines personally I didn't see the need to do it with mine. The other and one of the only two mods I have done to my SKS rifles is replaced the front sight post with a Techsight target post,there about half the dia. of the original SKS front post I paid $12 for two shipped to my front door and they fit any SKS rifle. The other mod is optics,I use the irons on my Chinese I mostly use it at 100 meters MAX range or less because of my eyesight thats about as far away as I can focus good.

    On my Yugo I have a Choate drill and tap four screw mount mounted on the receiver with a 3 x 9 x 40 Bushnell scope it's rock solid and sets high enough you can remove the rear receiver cover for cleaning and still use the iron if need be. Scoutscopes also makes a mount that replaces the rear sight leaf you can use either a red dot or long eye relief scope with it attached to the removable weaver rail which when also is remove leave you with rear sight,reattaching the weaver rail puts you back on zero ulike the cheaper file to fit rear cover that eventually shoot loose and require removing to clean the rifle.

    As far as a blank statement that any SKS is inaccurate,I would have to see the rifle in question,ammo being used in it and the ability of the person firing it. Just throwing lead downrange with the cheapest ammo of the day and never adjusting the sights properly it's no wounder you see so many claims of the SKS being inaccurate. Most SKS rifles regardless of version in good condition will shoot accurately with the right ammo,you just need to find which brand works the best for your particular rifle adjust the sights to it and stick with it if you want consistent accuracy. All the fixes and add ons want do you one bit of good if you just keep throwing the ammo grab of the day down the tube.

    SKS versions and differances
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  6. afi1

    afi1 New Member

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    I have found on other forums that people say not to dismiss any make of the rifle, but to base a purchase around overall quality, as y'all have said. Some swear by the Yugo, others by the Norinco, and still others by the Russian. I'll take that into consideration when looking for one. I do think I'll shy away from the Yugo's for their lack of a chrome lined barrel and chamber. I'm not going to load it with TAPCO junk either. The stock and scope mount I am looking at are actually from Choate. I'll still cut all the useless junk off the barrel, get the trigger worked and bed the stock. One question, with that mount and a scope that size, can stripper clips still be used? Do I need a brass deflector as well?
     
  7. res45

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    Can't use stripper with the big scope,they make some smaller ones that you can use them with though. If the scope or red dot sight doesn't interfere with using strippers then you want need a deflector.

    The issue of the non chrome lined barrel comes up often,as long as the bore is in good condition with strong rifling you want ever wear it out,chrome want save you if you shoot corrosive ammo in them either the gas tube and block isn't chromed. Chrome makes the bore a little easier to clean but thats about it.
     
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  8. RobDennis

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    Russians are ok but youre also paying for the name. You can pick up a Yugo M59 for 200-250$ less than a Russian and its basically IDENTICAL to the russian with the exception it doesnt have a chrome lined barrel but the barrel is a lit more heavy duty/thicker. heres my Yugo M59 and yes it has a M59/66 stock on it cause the original split. it looked the same liek the one pictured but it had a fracture internally. Whenit split I tried to get it fixed but was told by three different wood workers that it wont be safely mended so i put the other stock on. its missing the cleaning rod cause i have no idea where it went. I lost it somewhere
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  9. c3shooter

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    One minor issue- some of the Yugos with a grenade launcher have a gas shutoff valve (used when firing grenades). This valve is a point of failure on many of the Yugos due to wear/ corrosion. They CAN be fixed, but unless I plan to launch grenades, or got a REALLY good price, I would skip the Yugos. I have 2 Norincos, one has had a shorty scope added,the other I brought home in 68. Yes, I have the papers. No, no import stamp. :)
     
  10. robocop10mm

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    The Russians and Yugos are true Mil Surp rifles. Nearly all the Chinese (Norinco) versions are new manufacture made for the US market. As a result the Chinese rifles are generally in better condition. Many Yugos are well worn rifles and shoot/function accordingly.
     
  11. groovy mike

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    Top choice is the Russian, followed by the chinese, Yugo is a long way toward last place in my book.
     
  12. RobDennis

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    Yugos are a lot more closer built to Russian specs than any of the others. My Yugo has a shiny bore and shoots very accurate. Ill keep my more rare Yugo M59 over some chinese SKS.
     
  13. pranc2

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    i have a mil chinese sks and it didnt come with the internal mag and had nothing but problems with the 30rd being to heavy falling down and causing the weapon to jam. even tried a few different kinds(i.e. plastic, metal) after getting the internal with the stripper clips it bacame a fun rifle. pretty accurate none the less. most of that has to do with the shooter and just getting familer with the weapon to. the sights can be a little tricky if you dont shoot the russian designs alot. i even got a GI sight that goes on the very back of the cover and that helped alot too. as for the stocks there are good ones out there but im not really a fan of tapco and really like the old school look. awesome weapon for learn how things work. simple always works well.
     
  14. RobDennis

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    Most of the 30 round mags you find for SKS rifles suck. The best is the factory 10 round mag. The only one that is not problematic is the SKS-D which uses AK mags
     
  15. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I have had no real problems with the Tapco 20 round plastic duckbill mags, but i am using a Tapco stock.
     
  16. pranc2

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    i like the internal one the best with the stripper clips(aka. mag. loaders)for the sks. mine never had a problem with a five round mag., but also never got to try a 20rd. the catch on the duckbill never would seat right. cool thing though is it only takes a minute to change that out anyway.:D

    just saw the tapco stock too.. i bet that is why..lol
    i had thought about getting one but just got another weapon instead.. how is it?
     
  17. DrumJunkie

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    I have Chinese M model that uses AK mags. It's been a good rifle. I used to have a scope on a bolt cover mount but it was not stable enough for me. I changed to a Tapco stock and put a holo sight on a mount on the upper hand guard and I seem to like it better.

    The best way to SKS shop I've found is to look at what you can find available and rate them on an individual basis. The mil-surp rifles are hit and miss depending on what they have been through before you find them.Any one you can find in decent shape will shoot pretty well from my experience.I really don't think there is a holy grail SKS. The Chinese are usually less used or even new being you have them being made for sale here. But that does not mean you can't find an older one that will work well. My bigger reason for wanting one that used AK mags was I now have a couple rifles that can use the pile of mags I have laying around here :)