single stage trigger choices

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by hardluk1, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    I am try'n to deside on who has the best for the money spend 2 1/2 to 3 1/2lb single stage trigger for a AT15. The brand I find are cmc, jard, timney , JP, hypertouch 24 and any I may have missed.
     
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    Geissele.
    AR Gold.
    Wilson Combat.
     

  3. broke-again124

    broke-again124 New Member

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    Absolutely the CMC flat bow trigger. PHENOMENAL. seriously. If you buy it and don't love it, I'll buy it from you. Scouts honor.
     
  4. hardluk1

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    broke-again thanks that's what I am looking for .Owner reviews, not a choice of several with no finger on trigger time.

    CMC seem to have shank'n off any issue's they had in the past. Sure would like the ability to light'n it down the road. Might not be practical to get it all at an affordable price and be idiot proof too. HA Thanks.
     
  5. JonM

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    ive got a giesselle in my scar17 and a cmc in bravo company ar15. cant go wrong with either.

    my wife runs a giesselle in her ar15. if your looking for a solid 2 stage its very damn hard to beat the rra match trigger i run one in my match grade ar15 its right up there very close to single stages.
     
  6. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    JonM I have know interest in a 2 stage trigger. I shoot a few a just don't want to start trying to adjust to a one and only trigger of that type late in life, How is that cmc for creep and over travel and is yours is the 3 1/2lber? My lightest trigger in any rifle I own is 2lbs and its in a old remmy 788 I've hunted with for 35 or 36 years. I hate to even do a 3 or 3 1/2lb trigger but its probably a bit more trouble free on a semi-auto but will get some use in a rifle match's with a son-in-law. For me its a fun gun/coyote rifle and would rather entertain a 1 1/2lb jewel !!.
     
  7. sweeper22

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    I have the Hipertouch 24 in my distance shooter. Love it! Very crisp and clean, with a quick reset. Comes with three sets of springs to set it at 2.7, 3.5, and 3.8lbs.

    I have the medium 3.5# springs in mine and if feels far lighter than that. As clean as it is, I didn't really see any advantage to going lighter.
     
  8. Ibmikey

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    Cmc is pre-set for 3.5# and non adjustable. No creep and you just drop the unit into your rifle, put the two pins in place and shoot.
     
  9. AndyRexia

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    I have a 3lb Timney in my AR. I love it, no complaints. Your other options might be just as good or better. I've never used the others you mentioned so I can't comment on them. The Timney has 0 creep and is very crisp. I'd definitely buy another.
     
  10. broke-again124

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    You definitely need to shoot it first. It feels lighter than 3-1/2 lbs to me. And the farther down you press the lighter it is obviously. Once again, if you don't love it, I'll buy it from ya. ;)
     
  11. broke-again124

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    Zero creep, zero over travel, move maybe 1/8" during shots. Literally every time I've shot my lvoa in front of someone they think it's full auto I I really get on it.

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    Here is my rifle with the cmc 3.5 flat bow.
     
  12. hardluk1

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    Now this is what I am wait to read. Good reviews on several brands, Not sure its make my choices any easier. You do learn with a light trigger you just get your finger around it till your ready to shoot something and that's what has been messing with me in the past with shooting my M&P15 and several other rifles. I found a cmc for $159.95, now if hyper touch could do that. Thanks for the replies.
     
  13. Sniper03

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    I like the JP Triggers. Have one in my Sabre Defence 6.5 Grendel and love it.
    And if you want to improve a good trigger even better get some KNS Anti Rotate Pins!

    Geissele triggers are OK but the guy is a complete, unprofessional, rude and arrogant jerk and I will not do business with his kind! For that reason it would be the last trigger in the world I would purchase no matter how good they are. I do not support people like that.

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  14. JonM

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    mine is a 4lb works great only thing is the clips holding it are SUPER tiny easy to lose on installation but they give you almost a dozen so its not a huge deal.

    i prefer a good two stage over a single stage. ive got a timney in my precision ar15 at 3 lb and i vastly prefer the rra 2 stage in my match rifle. the only diff is that little bit of take up till you hit the sear.

    if you plan on hunting or using it as a defensive firearm i highly recommend you DONT use a one stage for safety in a ar15. makes it too damn easy to shoot yourself or some one else if the gun is bumped or dropped. a one stage trigger will go off if you drop it high enough (like out of a tree stand or blind).

    ive used both types a lot and good two stage is what i prefer over one.
     
  15. dwmiller

    dwmiller Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I've got a 3lbs timney skeletal trigger in my personal varmit rifle. Tuned down to ~1 lbs. It is an all day long prarrie rat killing machine out to 500+ yards. Light and crisp, zero overtravel, fast reset. Installs on standard pins.

    Break is so clean and light I have to be careful handing it off to others. The put their finger inside the trigger guard and BANG! No one really believes an AR can have a trigger like that. ;)

    Definitely not a carry rifle trigger! Much too sensative for that. If you need to carry the rifle go with something heavier and safer!
     
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  16. hardluk1

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    I do need to keep it safer for famlily that may shoot it as one will give it a go in some match locally. 3 31/2lb should do there as he does have a few hours shoot some look at and fire triggers. I have a timney in a custom hunter bolt rifle . set at 1 1/2lbs and first thing I did with it was start bangin the but pad straight down on the ground to try to trip it. 16 or 17 years later its still rock steady. You do have to watch the take up on any adjustable trigger for sure. My rifle that gets shot the most is a savage 223 set at 10 oz.

    That's the reason for asking here. Looking for any that have given issues. I would not expect any of the non adjustables ,well other than spring changes to give problems but till you ask for owners view you don't know.

    I think there a couple trigger makers that are too proud of there product and that reflects in there prices too.

    I also had a 1lb jard trigger in a timed .22lr fun match go full auto when it worked itself out of adjustment, a little green lock tight and all has been good for the last 4 years.
    Got ta decide !!! Need to pick one and order . Thanks guys.
     
  17. Argyle_Armoring

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    I have an Argyle Armoring trigger in my AR-15. Single stage, 4 lbs, and awesome!
     
  18. chloeshooter

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    now there's a shocker!
     
  19. hq357

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    What is a 2 stage and single stage trigger? Sorry I don't own a ar yet what is the diffrence? And what are standard triggers called?
     
  20. dwmiller

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    Two stage is the standard military trigger, or triggers derived from it. Usually a small to long length of pull with some weight (~4-6 lbs) before the sear starts to move. Length of pull and "feel, or gritiness" are what most people object to. The second stage is slightly higher weight (~5-8 lbs) as the sear lifts just before the gun fires. This is known as "break", and a clean crisp feeling is preferred here, with a weight just enough higher than the first stage so you can feel the rifle ready to fire. Military weight of triggers is kept higher for safety purposes.

    It is possible to lower the weight and smooth the trigger with two stage. This will will give you a two stage "match" trigger. 2-3 lbs of first stage with ~3.5 lbs of break, and a very smooth trigger pull with no unevenness is considered to be a highend two stage trigger. This can be done with the low cost ALG trigger, some aftermarket springs and a little work on a polishing wheel. ;)

    A single stage trigger is like pulling on a candy cane with your finger. When you reach the breaking weight it snaps cleanly and the rifle fires. There is no movement of the trigger before it lets go. These are used in target and varmit rifle builds. Not a great trigger for a carry rifle. Too easy to fire accidentally. ;)
     
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