?? Simmons point 8, and rings for AR

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by suzychapstick, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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    I'm planning on ordering a Simmons Point 8 4x12 40mm scope for seventy dollars for my rra varmint upper. I looked through the same scope in a 3x9x40 at the LGS and it really looked clear and seemed like a nice scope for 70 dollars. I havent been able to look through the 4x12 though. It can be oredered only. I would think the 12 power would cost a little more, but the 3x9 and the 4x12 are priced the same. It makes me wonder if the clarity is as good in the 4x12 as the 3x9 I was able to look through. Anyone have any thoughts on this. I also want to mount this on my AR as low as possible w/o the cantaliever mounts. I want some low profile verticle rings to keep this scope as low as possible. Simmons doesnt give the OD specs of this scope, and am unsure what will clear by how much. I know this scope isn't real high quality, but I can always take it off and stick it on a 17 or 22. if I change my mind. But I'd like to buy some halfway quality rings for the Ar though. Hopefully for around 50 dollars or less. Any ideas or responses would be appreciated. ??
     
  2. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    To each his own, I guess/ I wouldn't have a Simmons as GIFT..
     

  3. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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    why not, is there problems? The thing felt exceptionally light . But I took it outside the gunstore and was looking at street signs and stuff. It seemed more clear than my 80 dollar big 5 bushnell. Like I said, it felt exceptionally light. It reminded me of the balsa airplanes and rockets I used to do when I was a kid. But I only plan on looking through it, and it seemed good for the price. I'm open for any other reccomendations of scopes also.
     
  4. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    UHhhhh... your $80 Bushnell????

    Ever owned a REAL scope????

    Seriously, look at a Nikon, Leupold, Vortex, Burris.

    These are the medium quality/price scopes. high quality scopes usually start at somewhere around $500-$600.
     
  5. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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  6. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I have one, Simmons. Glass is not as clear as my Nikon but it will work for plinking.
     
  7. arashid630

    arashid630 New Member

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    I'm with locutus u get what u pay for always... The least I've ever spent was $400 on a scope & I never had a reason to complain... Although I've been looking at some of the stuff sold by Sight Mark & for the price they are good stuff. At first I was skeptic about them but the warrantee they come with was great, I put a green dot by them on my DE mark XIX .50cal & it held up fine... When I got the sight the quality looked & felt like military grade product & like I said its holding up just fine....
     
  8. Triumphman

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    If you're willing to spend a little more for a Simmons, at least get a 44MAG with Side Focus for around $120. I have one and their very good in build and glass. Even old, used Japanese Tasco's for $10 are better Scopes than the 8-Point Simmons.
    Go to WalMart and get a Nikon ProStaff in 3-9x40 w/BDC for a great bargain of $169, and you'll be set for Life.
     
  9. jpattersonnh

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  10. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The old Simmons Whitetails were good scopes. Occasionally you can still find one on close out. I wont buy another Simmons other than a Whitetail.
     
  11. gunnut07

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    OK Simmons are not all that good. Never seen one hold up too well to any kind of recoil.

    Next rings. You are going to need tall or extra tall rings no matter what. As the stock of an AR is in line with the bore of the rifle. I tried medium rings on an AR when I first started building flattop varmint uppers. I had to smash my pudgy face into the stock so hard it hurt to get a decent sight picture. Maybe if your head has been shrunken in a jungle somewhere you might be able to use low to medium rings but, if you have an average sized head go with tall to extra tall.

    I am just wondering why you spent $750 on an upper and you are putting a $70 scope on it. You could have gotten a upper for less and spent more on the scope. Or built the upper and gotten a better scope.

    My advice is don't buy the simmons you won't be happy never seen anyone happy with a simmons. Save some money up and get a better scope. Even a $200 mueller is head and shoulders about that simmons.
     
  12. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I have a cheapo 3x9x40 wide angle Simmons on my ar temporarily.

    It's okay. The glass sucks but it holds zero and has held up okay so far. It'll go on a 22 after I get another Nikon.