Silencer

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by jcooley6960, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. jcooley6960

    jcooley6960 New Member

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    So I've been looking around trying to find out how to get a silencer. I know you have to fill out a form throu the ATF but what form do you fill out ?and if I fill it out and I am cleared do I have to get one within a certain period of time before the clearance expires. Could someone elaborate for me and maybe put up a link to the form... Thanks
     
  2. gladesbassin

    gladesbassin New Member

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    I believe it's a class 3 license/stamp or you can get a trust and it also depends on where you live. Just google class 3 firearms license and you'll find what you need.
     

  3. jcooley6960

    jcooley6960 New Member

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    Okay I'm in Ohio sorry didn't put that in the post but they are legal here and I know you have to pay a $200 tax stamp for every one you buy but I read you have to fill out an ATF for or something do you know what form ?
     
  4. gladesbassin

    gladesbassin New Member

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    I would check with your lgs that deals with em and they can help you. I know the nfa form 4 has something to do with it or you can contact the ATF and they can lead you in the right direction. Sorry I can't be more of a help
     
  5. jcooley6960

    jcooley6960 New Member

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    Thanks for the info
     
  6. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You do not get a blanket permit. You have to buy the device and submit the paperwork with the serial number. The dealer you buy it from will hold the device, give you all the necessary paperwork and handle it for you. You will have to get permission from law enforcement, 2 passport type photos and fingerprints. Right now it is taking upwards of 8 months for the background check and approval.
     
  7. msup752

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    Yeah, what they said. You find a class 3 dealer, pick your can and pay for it. If the dealer has to transfer the can in, wait a month. When it arrives, you and the dealer will fill out a form 4 and a residency verification form and send it in to the ATF with $200 tax money. The form 4 may be filled out as an individual (needs fingerprints and chief law officer signature) or using a trust (need copy of the trust documents, no fingerprints or sign off required). Then you wait. Things are speeding up but expect a minimum of 6 months. Mine took 7 months from being mailed out to arriving back at the dealer.
    Make sure the suppressor works with whatever firearm you plan on putting it on. I got mine home to find out it was the wrong thread pitch but that was fixed quickly.
     
  8. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    if you find a reputable dealer that deals in class 3 firearms he will have the proper paperwork for you to fill out and you will get to meet your Chief LEO and try to smooze him into signing off on it " good luck with that one " . We cant even have one in IL :( period . Glad we finally got SBR in 11 but there still arent that many out there in IL that belongs to the public , Most of the SBRs here in IL are LEO/ dept owned
     
  9. hoovco

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    If you get into class 3 stuff, a trust is worth getting. With a trust you bypass fingerprints, CLEO signature and photo. Plus you can add more people to your trust so they can use your stuff too. Technically if I had a suppressor registered to me as an individual and said, "hey have a shot," and handed it to you to take to the range, that's considered a constructive transfer by the ATF. A trust runs like 300 bucks. It's worth it.
     
  10. Polygon

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    Is it safe to say that a CFP does nothing to help speed that process up?
     
  11. msup752

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    It is a federal approval, nothing speeds up the process that has changed little since it was implemented in the 30's. there is hope for the future as the ATF has a project to do all of this electronically.
    Some say tax stamps for trust owned items are issued faster because there are no names and fingerprints to be checked. I doubt that theory is true since most of the wait is getting your application to the top of the huge stack on the reviewers desk. Plus, trusts are sent to the legal department to make sure they are valid.
    I got my first can under an individual application. While I waited seven months for that to come back, I researched a trust and wrote my own using Quicken. After a few re writes to get it correct, I used it to apply for my second stamp, which has been pending 2 months so far. With the trust, I just need to make a new copy for each NFA item I want to apply for in the future.
     
  12. okdonk

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    True.. having Trust is a time saver. On average, took me about just exactly 6 months for my 1st & 2nd stamps back. Hopefully as predicted my form 1 SBR comes back.
     
  13. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    I wouldnt say its a time saver I had my stamp back in 5 months and 1 week with a individual non trust on my SBR .
     
  14. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    What i meant was not needing to get pics, fingerprints and Chief signatures. I can purchase the silencer from my class 3 dealer, fil up the form and mail it on the same day.
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    a trust speeds it up once your app hits the examiner desk. but its first come first serve till that point.
     
  16. MrWray

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    In Oklahoma its a $200 tax stamp then you have to get the form approved and signed by the sheriff in your county. Then its usually about a 6-7 month wait
     
  17. leofiremedic

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    I know laws vary from state to state, but I have lots of friends that opened a gun trust, no need for a Cleo and some other benefits depending on who you put on it with you.
     
  18. azsunnin

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    Google Mr. Silencer in Arizona then click the "Gun Trust" tab for lots of good info. I got the Quicken Will Maker 2011 for about $30.00 and did my own trust. Then just get it noterized. The Trust eliminates local LEO and helps with ownership/transfer later. Good luck
     
  19. leofiremedic

    leofiremedic New Member

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    with the quicken will maker, is there more than 1 form, or any special title such as gun trust.
     
  20. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I sent my app in in April and just got the word that they lost my paper work. They sent my cashiers check back and I have to start all over again.:mad: Incompetent idiots.