Silenced Handgun

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  1. chris86

    chris86 New Member

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    Hello Ladies and Gents,

    I am new to shooting and have a somewhat limited knowledge about handguns.

    I am also writing a novel and need some information about the use of silenced/supressed handguns. So the basic idea is that I am having a professional (merc/ex special forces yada yada yada) or whatever and he has to neutralise 3 people silently and with no mess. I was thinking maybe a Ruger MkII or a Silenced PPK.

    Is it possible to have that as a silenced shot or will it still make a load noise and not have it create an exit wound?

    Thanks
    Chris
     
  2. Robert NC

    Robert NC New Member

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    Can't really help on your question. Try going to Introductions and tell everyone a little about yourself.
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    By the looks that what you wrote above. I would not even try writing a novel.

    Oh yeah it is neutralize not neutralise. That would be the first thing you need to work on is SPELLING.
     
  4. DrGonzo11

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    The closest thing to a "silenced" weapon would be a .22 w/ suppressor and sub-sonic ammunition. While you couldn't hear, say a suppressed 9mm, down the street, it would definitely wake someone up in the next room. The James Bond/Hollywood "silencer" sound effect is FAR from accurate.
     
  5. IGETEVEN

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    Chris, I have already done this dude, using those weapons listed above and it is not that epic of a story to write a book on. A very famous man, ex SF and an old boxer, once told me: "It's what we do. You live for nothing or you die for something" and he had an epic career too, and I am pretty sure you have probably heard about his exploits. :rolleyes: Now, if your serious, please go to the introductions thread and tell us a little about yourself and maybe we can help you out, Until then, I have nothing of value to add to this thread. :cool:

    Jack
     
  6. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    Maybe instead of kill the people he could bore them into a coma with yet another mercenary novel.
     
  7. meek

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    Hey that's what my books about! Don't you steal my ideas.
     
  8. jbshoots

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    sorry, i have nothing useful to contribute to this thread, i just have to say that comment made me laugh...:D
     
  9. Dgunsmith

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    A Ruger MK II supressed with subsonic ammo would do the job, no noise if a contact wound and no exit. Proudly used in black bag jobs for many years .
     
  10. Dillinger

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    Okay, you have had all the slings and arrows, here is some info you can work from.

    There is no such thing as a "silencer" like you see in the movies. There is no thread on black can that takes your thunder magnum and turns it into a careless whisper.

    Forget that idea all together.

    The term, is a "Suppressor", because you are suppressing the round to below the speed of sound and suppressing the hot gas that is leaving the barrel.

    The way a Suppressor works is in conjunction with a SUB-SONIC round of ammunition. You don't want the bullet to ever reach the speed of sound ( about 1100 feet per second ) because them it will create that telltale "CRACK!" that you hear.

    However, that is only part of the problem, because the super heated gas that comes from the gunpowder also needs to be cooled before it is allowed out to mix with the room temperature air. That is where the Supressor comes in.

    Basically, what you are doing, is adding a bunch of branches off the barrel for the gas to roam around in, cool down, and flow out the barrel slower and cooler than normal.

    Think about a long hotel hallway. You have a hallway with 20 doors on each side, the rooms, and there is a window at one end and an elevator at the other.

    The elevator shaft is like the magazine feeding a bullet up into the chamber - which is you in the elevator.

    Now, imagine the second the doors open, the full force of a Hurricane is set off behind you and propels you down the hallway with all it's might.

    That would be what it's like with a bullet in a barrel ( minus the rifling of course ).

    Now, take that same scenario and open ALL the doors in the hallway.

    As you are thrust from the elevator, the pressure behind you subsides as you pass each room, because the gale force wind is also swirling around in each hotel room, so the overall force behind you is lessened.

    This is what is happening with a Suppressor - there are chambers that divert the gas, drawing pressure away from the bullet, lessening it's speed, and allowing the gas to cool before it finds it's way out the bore.

    A "silenced" handgun of any caliber size, is still going to make racket when you fire it. But, it's a question of "disguising" the sound to make people think it's something else.

    For instance, I happen to know that a single shot, from a sub-sonic .556 round, from a Suppressed AR, sounds pretty damn close to the sound of a guy using an electric nail gun to build a fence. :rolleyes:

    It's acoustic camoflauge - not the ability to hide like a Ninja.

    JD
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2009
  11. IGETEVEN

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    Damn JD, ya gave out all that free candy and yet no thank you or "trick or treat" at the new members Introductions thread. And it was the good candy too!! [​IMG]

    Jack
     
  12. KingTiger

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    Suppressed Buckmark

    Here's my Buckmark Camper, TacSol 4.5" barrel, AAC Aviator silencer shooting CCI subsonic .22 LR.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. NitroxAZ

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    Or an explanation of a "Can" - Just Sayin' :D
    Seriously, some good info JD.
     
  14. chris86

    chris86 New Member

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    Thanks everyone for your help i really appreciate it.

    To he who commented about my spelling – that’s why they have spell check! but I'll take it under advisement.

    And what I do in my time is up to me and your comments about "YET ANOTHER MERCENARY BOOK" although defiantly valid are not warranted. I asked for help on a specific problem from the people who know about these things and all I get in return from a most of you is a pile of abuse. So sorry but no introduction I am done with this forum
     
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