Side by Side french Shotgun Search

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by GunslingerAirborne, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. GunslingerAirborne

    GunslingerAirborne New Member

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    My grandfather has a shot gun thats a 12g side by side the only info thats on the gun is the ;
    Fait Four LPOTTEAU CALENCIENNES
    Fusil Forgeion
    Liege

    If anyone Has any Info please respond or can tell me what its worth i would be very happy,
    Thank you
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Gunslinger, welcome to the forum. When you get a minute, stop by the intro thread, say howdy, and tell us about yourself.

    In the meantime, I moved your question over to shotguns (support thread is for problems with the site)

    We REALLY need pictures, including the proof marks that will be on the underside of the barrel at the breech end, and markings on the frame (you will need to take it apart to see them).

    However, Your grandad's shotgun MAY be Belgian- Liege was the gun maker's center in Belgium. Potteau is likely the maker (they had hundreds). Could you please check spelling on the forgeoion? If you find an oval with the letters ELG, that is a Belgian proof mark.
     

  3. winston

    winston New Member

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    C3shooter is right it is not a French gun but a Belgian one, Liege is still the gun epicenter of belgium (FN Herstal...)

    Now for the gun is it possible that the markings on the gun read:
    "FORGERON", see engravings on this site (sorry it is in French)
    http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies e f/a forgeron fr.htm
    Than it probably is a gun of Alphonse Forgeron, who was a Liege based gunmaker who made guns from 1880 till 1932.

    At that time there where a few hundred gunmakers in Liege, this was not one off the top guys but still known in the region.
    Probably a nice gun with some nice history, can you post pictures.
     
  4. GunslingerAirborne

    GunslingerAirborne New Member

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    THANKS GUYS ILL TRY AND GET SOME PHOTOS, AND ILL CHEAK THE DADE OF THE FORGEOION , THANKS
    GunslingerAirborne
     
  5. GunslingerAirborne

    GunslingerAirborne New Member

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    do you know what they are worth
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Gunslinger- the value of ANY gun is based on make, model, and condition. We have not yet precisely identified what you have.

    Forgeron (Alphonse) made some beautiful high quality guns. But it can also mean "blacksmith" or "metal forger". Belgium was the gun making center of Europe at one time, Some were lovely high quality luxury guns, some were modest quality cottage industry guns.

    We really do not know enough YET to be offering estimates. Sorry-
     
  7. winston

    winston New Member

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    The words: "Fait Four LPOTTEAU CALENCIENNES "
    Could they read: "fait pour...."?
    Which in french means: made for ....
    If you could find out who is "LPOTTEAU CALENCIENNES ", you would be a lot further.
    If and I say if it was made for a certain person it will probably be a gun in a higher price range, because for lower end guns they never signed a name in them because they where not "tailor made".

    Has the gun certain engravings... (maybe a family emblem) ?
     
  8. hotrodz32

    hotrodz32 New Member

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    Check out damascusbarrels.com for info great site also. I am trying to find info on one myself good luck