Shtf ammo

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by jjfuller1, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    Just curious shat you would want on hand for emergancies. 62gr steel core or some sort of JHP self defense round? Please enlighten me
     
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    jjfuller1 New Member

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  3. mountainman13

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  4. gmaster456

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    whatever works and does the job
     
  5. fireguy

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    I have bought a good amount of xm193 and steel core for the AR. But after further thought soft point or hollow point is probably a better choice for a broader use. Civvies aren't bound to the Geneva Convention, and deer and other wildlife that may need to be harvested will be better taken with soft points or hollow point bullets. Same can be said for my LR-308.

    For handguns, hollow points are likewise the best choice for expansion and maximum effectiveness. FMJ can suffice if that is all there is, but the best would be a good bullet like the Federal Hydroshok or Barnes critical defense.
     
  6. anm2_man

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    Absolutely correct +1 and oh by the way, if you want to put holes in a armored vehicle, .223 AP won't do it, .308 AP won't do it only .50 BMG APIT will do it.
     
  7. 1hole

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    I don't play Rambo games in my mind, #00 buckshot in 12 ga.
     
  8. oldpapps

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    An open ended question. Oh, added, 'for 223'.

    No one good answer, but here are some things to think about.

    What weapon/weapons? An older AR or bolt with a slow twist will limit bullet weights to the light end. I have a bolt with a 1 in 14 twist that has troubles with anything over 55grs.

    For what use? Harvesting game or protection. Larger game is better served with heavier bullets at higher velocities. I am one that prefers something bigger for large game but many deer have been harvested with smaller than the .223. Bad guys, don't much care, just double and triple tap till they are no longer a threat.

    The AR platform is just about universal over this great land and 5.56 and or .223 ammo is around. Changing 'uppers' can change the capabilities from one extreme to the other.
    Bolts are, for the most part, very accurate and handle very light lead loads (a lead pellet for the bullet). But are slow for use in an extended fire fight.

    I/we are not concerned with Geneva Conventions or accords. Go with a good supply of what you weapon/s like. How many is enough and how many is too much? How long is your SHTF going to last and how likely are you to being targeted during this time?

    I see you live in the Western part of the state, so you have both the good and bad. You decide which is which.
     
  9. purehavoc

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    I like to say that alot of 55 FMJ and 62gr HPs would be a good stash.
     
  10. m72law

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    Not trying to Hi-Jack the thread but anm2_man got me thinking:eek:

    Which of the two 50bmg rounds would penetrate better - Armor Piercing Incendiary or just Incendiary?

    The reason i ask,I have a few of both rounds,'no APIT':( I was wondering what good is (Incendiary) if it doesnt pierce armor/concrete/engine blocks/ect...

    Is Incendiarys role made for starting fires or something like that:confused:
     
  11. anm2_man

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    AP is the round for blowing holes in armor. Incendiary rounds by themselves will not penetrate armor. Yes Incendiary rounds will start fires. The reason APIT was developed was to allow the shooter to visually see the hits in the target and go thru it.
     
  12. m72law

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    10/four

    I knew i should have bought more AP rounds,even though i love a good fire,Im not much of a pyromaniac.

    You start the fire & i'll watch it;)
     
  13. Nickwashere

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    Not to sounds stupid, what is shtf?
     
  14. purehavoc

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    Sh!t hits the fan
     
  15. therewolf

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    I dunno, if the SHTF, I want

    a bucket, sponge, cleanser.

    Dray bop bo, dray bop a diddie

    diddie day dee, dray bop bo...:cool:
     
  16. -06

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    You are not hijacking the thread. He asked about ammo types and amounts. Have a wee bit of SS109 as I don't "respect" the armor piercing ability of it. I do rely upon '06, 308, 54R, 8mm, and 303s abilities to do a job on plating. Their AP will defeat most problems by penetrating 1-2" in steel. A bud has some other strange rds that "cut up" after penetrating. Someone mentioned a 50 round, A bud has an ample supply of API rds. Either the "30s" or "50s" will "turn cover into concealment"--- and that is the name of the game.
     
  17. locutus

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    M193 ball and handloaded equivalent.

    M80 ball and handloaded equivalent

    115 JHP +P+ (9BPLE) and handloaded equivalent
     
  18. Sport45

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    Lots of 9mm FMJ.

    I figure it will be easier to trade for water and other important stuff...
     
  19. R3c0n5n1p3r

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    Lots of federal 22 lr in a 10/22 platform 100,000 rounds cheap ... And can hit eggs at 100yards... There has been 400yard shots 10/22 hitting a 18in target every time...
     
  20. R3c0n5n1p3r

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    When the "fit hits the shan " I wanna have enough rounds to not b bullet stengy ...
    DOUBLE TAPP!!!