Should my friend get a CCW?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by GlockRenegade, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. GlockRenegade

    GlockRenegade New Member

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    Ok so my buddy asjed me what I thought about him getting a CCW or CHL as they are called here in Texas. He asked becuse he occassionaly smokes weed. This is not an every day thing, ir every week thing he says, but it happens monthly. Now his concern is if he gets a CHL and ever has to defend himself, will this get him in trouble? I told him well on applications to buy guns it asks if your addicted too or dependant on drugs or alcohol. My CHL application asked the same thing, addicted or dependant on drugs or alcohol. I told him if its in your system its going to be a headache either way, but they can prove your " addicted or dependant ". Being a CHL holder you take on alot more responsibility, Texas requires an 8-10 hour class. So IMO having a CHL and a dirty system is aloy worse then just a dirty syatem - in the event yoi have to defend yourself. Thoughts?
     
  2. GlockRenegade

    GlockRenegade New Member

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    Correction = They cant prove your addicted***
     

  3. JD1969

    JD1969 New Member

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    I would say no. I am not against weed, in fact I fully support it being legal. However, at this point it is illegal and having it in your system in the event of defensive shooting will be a bad thing, same as if you got into one with alcohol in your system. The main difference is that THC stays in your system longer. Your friend could smoke a joint one day and get in a shooting the next and still have the THC in his system. Where as if he had a few beers on night and got in a shooting the next day the alcohol is gone. We all know not to carry if we are under the influence of any substance (I hope), and yes I know weed does not affect people the same as booze, but if you have anything in your system and get in a shooting, you will have a much harder time dealing with the DA.
     
  4. thdrduck

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    I would rather go to jail then be dead. If you pull your weapon and kill someone it should be because if you didn't they were going to kill you. If you would rather die then answer a lot of questions and maybe find yourself in court defending your actions... don't waste your money on a gun.
     
  5. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Pretty easy answer. He has a choice - quit the pot and get the permit or keep the pot and don't get the permit and don't carry.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    In what circumstance would they take a blood or urine specimine after a self defense shooting? It is not a DWI. If he smokes once a month, he will likely test "dirty" all the time, but why would they test?
     
  7. BRAD313

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    The problem is they don't care when u smoked its in your system if he is a small guy n works out or has a low fat content it won't be in his system that long but federal law says no drugs n guns
     
  8. JD1969

    JD1969 New Member

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    I guess this is what I was trying to say, but I got long winded and distracted.
    Also, Robo, I'm not sure what circumstance they would draw blood, I've never been involved in a shooting so I don't know what exactly happens.
     
  9. GlockRenegade

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    Come to think of it I havent heard too many stories where the victim who defended themselves had to be tested, but i have heard of a few. But to that, i always say anything CAN happen. The DA could make it happeb easy if they were so inclined. A tad off topic, dont LEOs get blood test if they have to shoot someone as part of procedure?
     
  10. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    I may be mistaken, but I think Zimmerman was tested after he shot the Martin punk.
     
  11. JD1969

    JD1969 New Member

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    I thought so too, but was not 100% so I didn't say anything.
     
  12. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    Smoke a joint or drink a beer or two is not what you want to do while CC'n. Tell your buddy its time to grow up and stop smokeing if he wants to cc. Sents he asked you , do you want him armed and high??? Asking here should not have been required of him or you to answer this question. Sounds much more like common sence.
     
  13. AIKIJUTSU

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    Doin' the pot sorta shows he doesn't have the common sense nor self discipline to make good choices. It makes it appear that he chooses what feels good at the moment over what is best for the long run. He'd best not be that way while carrying a gun. He's got to be able to deal with people who insult or irritate him without reacting in an irrational way.
     
  14. cvia

    cvia New Member

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    It's better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.
     
  15. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    A toke or more will stay in your system for six weeks. Besides why bother smoking weed and being concern with getting a CCW?
    One's reflexes will be slower than molasses if an emergency would ever rise. He'd be done for before he knew what hit him. My opinion.
     
  16. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    If he wants to get a CCW, he needs to be sure he gets and stays squeaky clean. Because in case of a shooting, he should be prepared to be examined with a fine tooth comb by the police, the D.A., and the shootee's family lawyer who would please like to find an excuse to grab everything he owns and everything he can earn for the rest of his life. A lot depends upon where he is, the local attitude toward guns, the local laws, and the circumstances of the shooting. But he should never take a chance of being caught with his pants down. Like a frequent poster on the forum has in every post, "Murphy's law has not been repealed". And, sure enough, if he is in a shooting it will be when he has the stuff in his blood.
     
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