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I just recently was reflecting on a old stevens shotgun Id once had.
The 1940's and 1950's had a pretty wide selection of shotguns.

I was thinking of picking up a new double barrel that can handle steel shot.
It seems that Mossberg Maverick Hunter Shotgun -The Firearm Blog
MSRP is $411.
In this case a Mossberg Mavrick hunter over under Mfg in Turkey.

 

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I always liked smoothbore 22 Rutledge guns....like the targos and model 61 Winchesters.
 

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The barrels are slightly off of being a true parallel
Their disadvantage lies in the fact that the barrels of a double-barreled shotgun, whether O/U or SxS, are not parallel, but slightly angled, so that shots from the barrels converge, usually at "40 yards out".
In the O/U configuration with a parallel rib, both barrels' discharges will keep to the dead center, but the discharge from the "under" barrel will shoot higher than the discharge from the "over" barrel after 40 yards. Thus, double-barreled shotguns are accurate only at practical shotgun ranges, though the range of their ammunition easily exceeds four to six times that distance.
 

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Mossberg Targo. Smoothbore 22LR, had thrower for minature clay pigeons on barrel. Also had a threaded rifled section you could screw in to barrel to shoot regular 22 ammo.
 

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Have a Remington 1100 I inherited from my Dad. He bought it to chase crows out of his garden- and fired the gun a total of 3 times. BTW, it is an 1100 Lightweight in .410. These seem to be selling for about a grand now.
 

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Saw an old, but good shape, FIE brand 20ga side by side shotgun at the LGS today (Brazilian made by Boito, FIE is importer/brand) they wanted $225

Need to do my research... Seems about right

Made probably in 60s or 70s

2 3/4 chamber
 
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Always found these interesting, and would love to get one, just to hang on the wall, as a conversation starter.

And yes, it would get fired from time to time. I only have three I don't fire, two coach guns from before 1890, with serious damage from lack of cleaning by some of their past owners, and my grandfather's JC Higgins 12 ga. bolt gun, he set up with a ladder sight and front post, as a slug gun. With that one, I'm building a 20 ga. clone, as a shooter, and have removed, shortened, and reinstalled the original firing pin.

I don't want it ever shot again, as I don't want what could happen to happen to me, or anyone else.


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I like the early 1900s single barrel shotguns. Those inexpensive guns were made for people to put food on the table and keep the boogeyman at bay. Nothing fancy, just a practical tool for practical people.
 

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Decided I needed a O/U a few years ago. I wanted a short barrel, just preference, I like short handy rifles, pistols, and shotguns. I looked at the Maverick HS12. Liked it but the deal breaker for me was the pendulum safety. I decided on the Stoeger Condor Outback. When I went to pick it up though. The LGS owner had another to show me before I laid down my money. The Legacy Escort Silver Synthetic Shorty (man, that’s a mouth full isn’t it!). Could not resist and it came home with me.

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Decided I needed a O/U a few years ago. I wanted a short barrel, just preference, I like short handy rifles, pistols, and shotguns. I looked at the Maverick HS12. Liked it but the deal breaker for me was the pendulum safety. I decided on the Stoeger Condor Outback. When I went to pick it up though. The LGS owner had another to show me before I laid down my money. The Legacy Escort Silver Synthetic Shorty (man, that’s a mouth full isn’t it!). Could not resist and it came home with me.

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That is one attractive shotgun!
I did look at the Maverick HS12
But am more interested in a hunting
Shotgun.
Was thinking of an alternaive in case I didnt want a Mavrick Hunter.
Would be a Stoeger.
 

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That is one attractive shotgun!
I did look at the Maverick HS12
But am more interested in a hunting
Shotgun.
Was thinking of an alternaive in case I didnt want a Mavrick Hunter.
Would be a Stoeger.
I like it. It so far has given me a turkey, a mess of squirrel and rabbits, and a few ducks. It’s short length is handy behind a blind, following dogs, and in flooded timber. But I freely admit that if I were hunting open water or fields I would probably want 24" or 26" barrels. It came with 5 choke tubes, and 2 stock spacers. I got it new in box supposedly unfired. Regardless if fired or not, it was clean. It has definitely been fired now!

Home now where I can show you some actual pics!
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The Sjögren Inertia Shotgun was a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun designed by the Swedish inventor Carl Axel Theodor Sjögren, initially manufactured by AB Svenska Vapen- och Ammunitionsfabriken in Sweden and then by Håndvåbenværkstederne Kjöbenhavn in Denmark.
It used an inertia system later revived by the Italian firm Benelli and today widely used in shotguns. It saw very limited service in World War I by both the allies and the central powers.
Funny how an old design can resurface as modern with some modern tweaking?
 

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I meant to add that it’s made in Turkey as well. Maybe be the same people that make the Mossberg??? It does not have the pendulum safety though, it will fire with the barrels pointed in a downward angle.
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I have a soft spot for Remington Rolling Blocks.
And here is a european made rolling block.
Emile (1830 - 1902) and Leon (1833 - 1900) melt in 1859 the Manufactory of Weapons Emile and Leon Nagant, Quai of Ourthe, 41 in Liege.

The meeting with the Remington brothers in 1867, makes it possible to take, under licence, the manufacture of 5000 rifles "Rolling Block" intended for the pontifical Zouaves of the guard of the Vatican. By improving the system of closing they produce shotguns with juxtaposed barrels under the name of "Remington-Nagant".

http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies nagant/a nagant fusil remington gb.htm
 

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I like it. It so far has given me a turkey, a mess of squirrel and rabbits, and a few ducks. It’s short length is handy behind a blind, following dogs, and in flooded timber. But I freely admit that if I were hunting open water or fields I would probably want 24" or 26" barrels. It came with 5 choke tubes, and 2 stock spacers. I got it new in box supposedly unfired. Regardless if fired or not, it was clean. It has definitely been fired now!

Home now where I can show you some actual pics!
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That recoil pad looks like it should soften a mule kick.
How effective is it?
 

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The shotgun itself is heavy. The recoil pad does a good job of dampening recoil as well. Plus the rubber inserts in the stock give a very good grip. The stock is adjustable for length of pull and comb height, so you can fit it to yourself. The stock, BTW, does not have that hollow sound that so many of the plastic rifles and shotguns have. It does a good job of dampening recoil. It is more comfortable to shoot than my 20 gauge H&R Pardner Single Shot or my 12 gauge H&R Pardner Pump Protector.
 
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