Shotgun vs. rifle for deer

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by bowhunter17, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. bowhunter17

    bowhunter17 New Member

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    My county has recently opened the land to rifle hunting. We used to only be able to use shotguns, bows, and muzzle loaders.(Broome county, NY). Should I get the Mossberg 500 with the rifled cantilever barrel or a .243 bolt action rifle for white tailed deer. In NY the range that we see deer is very limited (20- 150 yards at the stands that I go to) so I was wondering if a rifle is necessary or if I should just get the shotgun.
     
  2. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    Get a 308 Win., best Whitetail deer round on the planet, JMHO.

    Others' mileage may vary.
     

  3. hiwall

    hiwall Active Member

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    For the most part, any place that hunters CAN use a rifle, they do. So buy a rifle.
     
  4. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    The only situation I choose a shotgun is in Louisiana when we are using the hounds and I expect a close shot at a moving target. 00 buck out to 50 yards or so.

    Hunting from a stand or still hunting, use the rifle if legal and safe to do so.
     
  5. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    If you miss and hit a bear, it's OK; you can tell us.
    :D

    Some people down here in MS use them for hunting in brushy areas; they say slugs don't deflect off the brush as bad, though I haven't tested that.
     
  6. eatmydust

    eatmydust New Member

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    +1 on the .308 win.

    OR, in your case where most shots will be under 200yds. a 30-30 win., or .308 Marlin lever action would also be a great choice, especially with the new Hornady Leverevolution ammo.

    OR, for a buck busting rifle that combines the knock down power of a 12 ga. and the "reach out and touch someone" aspect of the .30 cal. rounds, a Marlin 1895 in .45-70, is a great choice and I find it comparable to my 12 ga. slug gun in recoil. You'll never need more gun.
     
  7. tri70

    tri70 New Member

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    The 308 ammo is hard to find, I would go with 243, 270 or 30-06.
     
  8. bamashooter68

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    If your option is a 12ga or a .243 I would go with the .243. I have used mine to kill just about everything and it kills well. If another rifle caliber is an option I would suggest a 30-06.
     
  9. bowhunter17

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    Another thing I like about the Mossberg 500 is that it comes with the rifled barrel, scope, and a bird barrel. With that, I can basically hunt anything that lives in NY. If I got a rifle just for deer, then I would have to get some other guns for other game. The only gun I have now is a pre ww2 Browning a-5 that I don't want to hunt with because it could be worth something someday. I guess a lot of guns isn't a bad thing, but I'm 14 years old, and my only income is 35 dollars every week for mowing 2 lawns, so I probably won't be able to buy that many guns (I would love to though). I have about $2500 saved up from mowing.
     
  10. BULLET9992

    BULLET9992 New Member

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    Depends on your distance. Even a nice, accurate slug guns with super accurate sabot slugs is maxed out at 100 yards. Past that you should consider a rifle, caliber is purely personal preference. 30-30, 7.62x39, 243, 30-07, 7mm-08, 7mm REM mag, 6.5 creedmoor, 6.8 spc, 308win, 308 marlin, 300 win mag. Just a few of you options for deer. Your choice depends on range, size of deer, your accuracy, your preference of damaged meat vs knock down power, sholder sensitivity, familiarity with weapons platforms, & more contribute to your choice. Specifically tell us your experience, what you've shot before, range etc., & we in this forum will gulp as best we can. :) final decision is your ofcoarse.
     
  11. BULLET9992

    BULLET9992 New Member

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    If you buy a shotgun I prefer the Remington 870. It's a battle tested firearm, so is the Mossberg 590. Btw here is a pic of one of my guns. Rossi Rio Grande 30-30 lever action & hornady 160gr flex tip expanding leverevolution ammo.

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  12. DrumJunkie

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    I like a rifle over a shotgun but that has more to do with range than anything. Being you are under 200 yards in your shooting though really either would work OK. I prefer a 30 rifle of some type just because the drop them faster. Around here (S. Central Ky) more white tail has been fell with a 30 30 than any other two calibers. But here in the hills a 150 yard shot is pretty much as long as you're going to see. I like a 30 06 because it drops them like a hammer in their tracks and I don't have to tack them down.
    Truth be told though at 100 yds about anything including a 12 ga will fell a deer.
     
  13. towboater

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    A 30/30 will handle that range well. A30/06 is a shoots a little flatter but kicks more.
     
  14. hiwall

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    Remember that this comes down to your choice. We can only say what "we" would do. Which ever choice you make WILL be the correct one for you.
     
  15. kalboy26

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    I prefer a rifle, but in your situation I think that the shotgun maybe your best best with the multiple barrels. I only say that because at 14 it may be a while before you can afford another gun, so I would get what you can do the most with right now. You can get a rifle in a few years, but you can use your shotgun for everything else until you get it. That way you don't miss out on any hunting. Tough choice though.
     
  16. kfox75

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    OP, both of the above posts are pretty much the advice I would give you. If you buy the shotgun, it will serve you better for now. Save up some money, and find out what the others in your group like to use. See if you can get them to go to a range, and if you can try out their rifles to see what works best for you. I would take a good sampling of what I own to meet up with you and those you hunt with, but Broome County is one he!! of a long haul from Chautauqua County.

    I myself prefer my old Mossberg bolt action 20 gauge for deer, as it has been serving my family for a little over 50 years. This does not keep me from using my Mosin M44 or my 1916 Spanish short rifle as well. Just depends on where I will be hunting that day. The big thing to remember about riflr hunting is to know how far that bullet will travel if you miss, and what directions are safe to fire towards. this also applies to shotguns as well, but they don't need as much run off room. Whichever way you go, have fun out there and stay safe.
     
  17. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    You will never regret going w 30-06.
     
  18. natman

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    There might be room for discussion if you already had a slug shotgun set up and were wondering if you should switch to a rifle. Since you're starting from scratch, there's no room for debate - get a rifle.
     
  19. JTJ

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    In your circumstance I would go with the shotgun with a rifled barrel for sabot slugs even though I am not a shotgun fan. That is if you can handle the recoil. It would do more which is what you need in a one gun situation. If you should decide to go with a rifle, I have been seeing 243 and 270 ammo available while 308 is especially scarce.
     
  20. Milsurpshooter60

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    Well i live in Ohio and we are a shotgun state ,But i was raised in fla and we always used rifles, i think shotguns are the dumbest law ever , i see more deer wounded and never found shot by kids with 410,s and 20 guages then i ever saw in any southern state i have hunted which is quite a few and i agree 308 is the best deer rifle but at those ranges and ya size i would go with a reg marlin 30-30 has killed more deer than any other rifle in north america , i myself carried a 30-30 for many many yrs till i grew into an 06 and 308, i try to do most my hunting now in bow season they all drive hunt here and it is dangerous and ruins it for anyone else that was not there before you ,here in Ohio we just have a lot of people coming to ya hunting spot with 10 guys and running every deer miles away , stick with the rifle if they allow it trust me,shotguns have come a long way but only way i take slug gun over rifle is i have to in Ohio .I would always,s take the rifle over a slug gun i like quick clean kill,s and have been shotgun hunting for 9 yrs now , stick with the rifle. as far as recoil and accuracy you can not get with the recoil of a 12 guage as a small person that ya can with the 30-30 and i would not suggest any thing under a 12 guage as i have used the 20 it does not have enough energy to drop em i hate to chase deer and hunt for them hour,s. or leave them to rot and just go find another like they do up here , some the dmbst hunter,s and most unethical i have ever seen in gun season in Ohio.STICK WITH THE RIFLE.