shotgun slugs

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by suzychapstick, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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    I'm going to get some 12 gauge rifled slugs. I don't want to spend alot of money. It seems alot of people buy 2 3/4 shells. I don't know why? Are they more accurate than 3". These are the three choices I've come up with. They are all close in price.
    1. Federal Powershok 3" w/ a 1.25 oz shot. - blue box
    2. Winchester super x 3" w/ a 1 oz shot - silver box
    3. Remington 3" 7/8 oz shot
    - if 2 3/4 is better, theres the truball slugger.

    Anyone ever shoot and compare these on accuracy? I'm not sure which ones to get. Seems theres a big difference from a 7/8 oz slug from a 1 1/4 oz slug. Does anyone of these three have more powder or a hotter shell?
    Seems the idea of shooting slugs is to destroy what your shooting. So what advantages or disavantages do you guys see in the three I listed. I'm almost leaning towards the heavier slug, seems a 1.25 oz slug would do more damage but I may be missing something. I'm not going deer hunting. Clue me in if I am. thanks
     
  2. kaido

    kaido New Member

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    I've only fired slugs once and it was maybe two or three of them. I couldn't tell you what length or type they where at all though since it was the first time I ever fired a 12gauge and was just happy to of found someone who would let me shoot there's. but the only reason I can come up with as to why people usually buy a 2 3/4" shell is for the lesser felt recoil. Wether or not this is indeed the reasoning, I can't tell you for sure. Just my way of thinking.
     

  3. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    Are you using a rifled barrel? Rifled choke tube? Smooth bore?

    I believe sabots are the way to go w/ a rifled barrel. That's for accuracy ie deer hunting. If you are just shotgun plinking, I'd buy the cheapest ones available......
     
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  4. akers06

    akers06 New Member

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    I live in Ohio and that's all we can deer hunt with is a slug gun so I know a little bit on this subject.....I would go with the 2 3/4" over the 3" because they are more accurate and kick less I never have been able to get a good group out of any gun shooting the 3" slugs and I prefer the 1oz slug because they hit hard enough to do a lot of damage but they still shoot good up to 100+ yards with reasonable drop.....as far as brands I would try the winchester super x's or the federal slugs and see which shoots better out of your gun. I have never had any remington slugs shoot worth a crap in my opinion they are junk.....hope I helped you out a little
     
  5. Old_Crow

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    My Mossberg 500 loves the Winchester XP3 sabots. They are lighter than any of the slugs you have listed (375 grains). I do have rifled barrel. My gun is not picky about ammo out to around 75 yards. It shoots plain rifled slugs just as well as sabots. Where the sabots shine is at longer ranges. I have tested the 375 gr sabots at around 150 yards and they do as well as a lot of well made rifles. A friend was was sighting in a 300 mag Howa with a nice Leopold scope. He was shooting tighter groups but he wasn't embarrassing me.

    Adding a scope really helps with a shotgun. The stock Williams sights on the Mossberg slug barrel are a challenge to set properly. I finally gave up on them and installed a 2.5x fixed power scope.

    3" slugs are far superior to 2 3/4" slugs. The 3" slug has much more velocity than a 2 3/4 slugs. It's the same thing with buckshot. People buy 2 3/4" buckshot with 9, 00 pellets. 3" super x buckshot have 15, 00 pellets. I don't know if they are to tight to pay a premium price for 3" shells or they never took a moment to read the box.
     
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  6. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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    well thanks, I have a full choke browning, but anticipate on buying either a moss 500 real quick here or a 870, either in a smooth bore. I'm kinda favoring the way a moss feels, but think a 870 may be a lil better built. I got this hunch california is going to outlaw lead bullets after the election, so I need to buy now. Glad to hear someone likes 3". Velosity makes sense. One guy says they may be less accurate. Do you think a 1 oz will shoot much flatter than 1 1/4 oz? Seems the heavier one will do more destruction though. Keep your opinions coming please.
     
  7. Old_Crow

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    The Remington feels like it's better built because the rods on the slide are welded, so the forearm doesn't wiggle. The Mossberg is riveted so the forearm does wiggle. There was a time when the 870 was better built but those days passed about 30 years ago with the introduction of the express models. In today's market I would buy the gun that feels best. I shoot a lot and I have never had a Mossberg fail and you can keep the wood stock in pristine condition with Old English scratch remover. Old English just beads up on the Remington, suggesting a cheapo acrylic finish.
     
  8. JTJ

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    The 3" will have a lot more recoil. Pad your shoulder when you sight in with either. Personally I think the 3" are overkill and not worth the extra recoil or expense.
     
  9. montveil

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    I assume you want to hunt whitetail deer. At what ranges do you think your target will be?
    You do not state your experience level, especially with shotguns.
    Smooth barrel slugs are fine out to 75 yards and the 2 3/4 inch slugs especially Trueball slugs will surely do the job.
    If you get a barrel with choke tubes you can bird/small game hunt also.
    The 3 inch slugs do have a very noticeable increase in recoil.
    A rifled barrel can only shoot sabot slugs and are superior to smooth bore slugs in range BUT you have a dedicated barrel.
    I would suggest a smooth bore barrel with choke tubes. Shoot 2 3/4 inch reduced recoil slugs at paper plates at 50 yards. When you can put all your shots into the plate go to full charge 2 3/4 loads.
    ACCURACY AND SHOT PLACEMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SLUG VELOCITY
    It will be of great help if you have a coach as a shotgun can quickly develop a flinch.
    A low power scope or red dot will be a great help

    Just some thoughts
     
  10. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    I think 75 yards is a stretch with a smooth bore barrel - I would keep it under 50 yds for hunting deer, that would be the humane thing to do.
     
  11. akers06

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    I've killed quite a few deer around the 100 yard mark with a smooth bore gun ...2 years ago I killed a doe at a ranged 134 yards with a benelli nova smooth bore barrel with a factory modified choke tube shooting winchester super x 1 oz slugs....as long as you practice that far and know how your gun shoots it can be done easily
     
  12. chloeshooter

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    I think that is exceptional, rather than normal, shooting for smooth bores w/ slugs. I am sure I will hear from all of the good shooters now lol.

    Where I live (Minnesota), the typical shotgun deer shot is < 70 yards. I have watched guys at the range with rifled barrels make nice patterns at 100 yards, not so much with the smooth bores though. I'd say if you can't get all your slug shots inside a 9" circle at 100 yards, you have no business taking a shot at a deer. That's just my opinion
     
  13. gmaster456

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    Here where I live, we can only hunt with slug guns or muzzleloaders so I know a fair bit on the subject as well. For hunting, there is no reason to go with 3 inch. They kick harder and offer almost no additional performance. In fact, the often perform worse. As for which slugs to choose, it depends on your barrel. If your barrel is rifled I would look at Hornady SST's, Federal Fusions, or Remington Copper solids. There's also a slew of other good options. If you have a smoothbore barrel which I'm almost sure you do, I would look at Federal Tru Balls, Remington Sluggers, Winchester Super X or Brenneke Classic Magnums.

    As for which gun to get, get whatever feels best. The difference in forearm feel has already been explained above. I will say that the 870's quality has dropped a lot in recent years. If it were me, I'd get the mossberg, but like I said, get what feels best.
     
  14. SSGN_Doc

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    Pretty sure the OP said that they were NOT going to use these for hunting. The 2 3/4" shells would be fine for any defensive shooting. You get extra bulk, extra weight and a reduced number of shells in the mag of a dedicated defensive gun when using the longer shells. Not much advantage up close to outweigh the payload and recoil issues at defensive ranges. Also the longer shells can be harder to manipulate under stress for reloads, buck to slug changeover or port loading.

    2 3/4" shells are usually easier to find in a local store and at better prices as well.
     
  15. akers06

    akers06 New Member

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    I agree 100% 3" slugs are way overrated
     
  16. gmaster456

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    It doesn't take much practice to get shots in a 9 inch circle at 100 yards. Smoothbore or not.
     
  17. akers06

    akers06 New Member

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    If you can't get all of your shots in a 9 inch circle at 100 yards you need to get a different gun or get shooting lessons
     
  18. suzychapstick

    suzychapstick New Member

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    I think Akers and Old crow, got their points. So I'm going to get some of both. tHE 1.25 OZ behind 3" sounds nice. And Walmart has sluggers in 2 3/4 for under a buck apiece. Thanks SSGN DOC for stopping the dear hunt.
    Also, thanks for all the info on the non-rifled slugs, this helped me out.
     
  19. akers06

    akers06 New Member

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    Glad we could help ol bud
     
  20. akers06

    akers06 New Member

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    I've got a winchester 1300 with a rifled barrel I usually shoot hornady sst or the federal barnes slugs but I will try the xp3s and see how they do out of my gun