shotgun shell question?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by shooter88, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. shooter88

    shooter88 New Member

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    My question is ive been shooting 12gauge 3" 00buck MAGNUM shells out of my shotguns... a small gunshop owner that does chl classes told me today that unless my gun says it will shoot magnum shells it may explode?? I thought it didnt matter wether or not it was a magnum as long as the shell is what the shotgun is chambered for?(of course it wont fit if its not chambered for that size round) I do have a 12gauge "magnum" atleast thats what they call it cause it shoots up to 31/2" shells so idk if thats what hes thinking im shooting cause surely he knows a 31/2" shell wont fit in a regular shotgun...So anyways all the input u guys can give me will be greatly appreciated cause now im scared to shoot the expensive shells i bought lol
     
  2. shooter88

    shooter88 New Member

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    The shotgun ive been shooting these rounds out of does not say it will shoot magums like the guy says it has to say in order to shoot them. Ive shot them out of regular pumps and single shot 12 gauges
     

  3. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If the barrel is stamped 3 inch, it's safe with 3 inch.
     
  4. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    3" and 3-1/2" are Magnums, by definition, whether they have it printed on them or not.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Problem is- a shotgun chambered for 2 3/4 shells (non magnum) will chamber and fire (not safely) a 3 inch (magnum). I think the instructor's point- use the ammo the gun was meant to use. If it says 3 inch, use 2 3/4 or 3. If it say 3 1/2, use any 12 g. If it is not marked other than 12 g, use only 2 3/4 shells.
     
  6. shooter88

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    Thats what im saying...u cant fit a shell in a gun bigger then what its chambered for. I shoot 3" 00buck magnum out of guns that r chambered for up to 3" shells and this guy is telling me that it doesnt matter u cant shoot them if it doesnt say magnum stamped in tge side of your barrell it will blow up cause the magnums r so much more powerfull
     
  7. dragunovsks

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    Hes full of crap, maybe he was trying to sell you something.
     
  8. shooter88

    shooter88 New Member

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    Idk man thats y im trying to ask experts so i know for sure
     
  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I never trust anyhing that some guy in a local gun store tells me, unless I know him very well.

    This guy is full of it.:(
     
  10. shooter88

    shooter88 New Member

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    This is true but i had to think what if hes right cause he might know since hes qualified to give chl classes...idk he doesnt make sence
     
  11. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It's always a good idea to get advice from several different places, even if you're pretty sure you already know the answer.

    There's an old adage that two heads are better than one. And twenty are better thyan two!:p
     
  12. ninjatoth

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    I might be thinking wrong,but doesn't a star on your barrel mean it will shoot 3" or less and no star is 2.75" only?
     
  13. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Star does not indicate shell lebgth. SOME shotguns use a * or ** to indicate choke.
     
  14. c3shooter

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    OK- read this carefully-

    3 inch shotshells ARE magnums. An UNFIRED 3 inch shell WILL chamber in a 2 3/4 shotgun. It is unsafe to fire them.

    At this moment I am holding a shell marked 2 3/4 ", and a metal ruler. The unfired shell is right at 2 and ONE quarter inches long. When fired, it will be 2 3/4 inches long.

    When a shotshell is fired, the front end unfolds. Notice how a fired shell is longer than an unfired shell? A 3 inch shell in a 2 3/4 chamber does not have room between front of shell and forcing cone for the shell to unfold. It tries to unfold into the cone and barrel. Not enough room, so shot and power piston get squeezed. Pressures jump WAY up.

    Cliff's notes version- do not use ammo longer than what is marked on the gun. If it says 3 inch, you can shoot 3 inch or 2 3/4s.
     
  15. blucoondawg

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    I agree, the guy is full of it, I agree with c3, stick with the shell length, don't worry about whether it's a 3" or a 3" magnum, if its a 3" gun I'd say ur good to go.
     
  16. tonydewar

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    agree magnum and HIGH brass are just marketing tools
     
  17. tonydewar

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    until you you get to sub gauges just got a rem 1100 field in .410 barrel marked ic" 3 inch plastic shells only" it will not function with 2.5 loads get ftl after 1 to 3 shots and locks up . a friend has the same gun but his is stamped 2.5 plastic only and runs fine on the shells im trying to use. torn the guns down next to each other and cant see any difference. any ideas? have heard of differnt gas port sizes but why? in a 410 recoil is not a problem any input c3?
     
  18. robocop10mm

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    The term "Magnum" in a shotshell has a different meaning than in centerfire metallic cartridges. A Magnum shotshell has a larger/heavier payload than a standard shot shell.

    C3 is entirely correct. A 12ga shotgun chambered for 3 1/2" shells IS a magnum shotgun. There is no such animal as a 3" non-magnum shotshell.
     
  19. c3shooter

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    Tony- most .410 autoloaders are gas operated. I have an 1100 Light Field in .410, has that same marking- 3 inch plastic only. The gas system is set up to run on the gas produced by the 3 inch shell. Has to do with number and size of holes in the piston, not the barrel.

    The 1100 can safely shoot the 2.5 inch /410, but they will not cycle properly.

    When I said if gun is marked 3 inch, you can shoot 3 inch or shorter, that did not include when the word ONLY is stamped on the gun!
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2012
  20. shooter88

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    Thank you sir thats what i thought considering ive had guns all my life so i kinda know what im talking about too and what he said didnt make sence to me