Shotgun condition for home

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by fa35jsf, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. fa35jsf

    fa35jsf New Member

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    So just to get some opinions, if you use a pump action shotgun in your home defense setup, what condition do you keep it in?
    Con 1: loaded +1 chambered safety on
    Con 3: loaded, empty chamber safety on Mod Con 3: loaded, empty chamber safety off Hopefully not con 4 which would be unloaded.

    Here is my situation. My shotgun is not my primary gun to go investigate a bump in the night. I choose the bedside pistol for that. However, if I was for sure that someone was breaking into my house, car, or causing some other mischief on my property an had time to grab it from the closet behind the clothes, well then I would take that.

    Being that it is a pump action, and being from the south where we are familiar with the sound, I am a firm believed that the sound of the action is enough to stop a good majority of the problems in their tracks. I just don't know if it is better for me to pump the shotgun and have that powerful affect and not have to use the gun, or to already have one in the chamber so I have 6 rounds instead of 5. (Of course if 5 rounds of 00 buck doesn't solve my problem, and the other 5 from the stock still doesn't correct the situation, there is little hope for that last one.)

    Also, in regards to keeping the safety on or off, I am leaning towards off. My shotgun, a mossberg 500, has the safety in a somewhat awkward spot. I am married but have no kids or little ones running around. Of course if I opt for a round already chambered then I will keep the safety on regardless.

    So what are y'all's thoughts?
     
  2. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I don't have my shotgun out right now. My 3 year old grandson has been visiting a lot. I like just being able to put my pistol on top of my 5 foot tall dresser.

    When I did keep a shotgun in my closet it was my Mossy 500. I kept it with 5 rounds of 00 buck in it. Empty chamber and safety off. I know that their are people that have the extended tube and keep 8 rounds in it. I feel like if 5 rounds of 00 buck is not going to stop the threat I would be better off with my AR.
     

  3. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Condition 3. It is possible to quietly operate the slide and chamber the first round. That familiar sound that is supposed to scare the sh!t out a a BG can also inform them as to your location and intent. If they are armed as well, you may wind up causing them to have an idea of where to fire. Just something to ponder.

    The shotgun is not my first choice for a bump in the night. The 1911 or the GP100, both with a flashlight at the ready in the off hand, are the first choices, as both are closer to me when I sleep than the shotgun is. The shotgun is for the wife to cover from the bedroom door just in case she and the daughter need to hole up in there. have not had it come to the point of having to use the pistols or the shotgun yet, hope we never have to.

    Only home invasion we have had in the last 8 years was a possum about 4 years back came in by knocking the fan out of the porch window after shredding part of a screen. Took care of him with the sling shot and a 3\8 ball bearing followed up with a knife. A little season salt, garlic, and onion powder along with about 40 minutes on a spit finished him off perfectly.
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    modified con. 3. loaded, none in the chamber and safety off. no children in the home, just thewife and i so we can take steps that others with children can't or shouldn't take. both the pump shotguns are kept in our bedroom along with two pistols. part of that is for four legged critters vs. the two legged types. as where we live, yes we could experiance a home invasion of some nefarious BG's intent on raping and pillaging, but snakes and coyotes would be highly more likely. we have had wild hogs and coyotes as close as 40-50 from the back of the house at night.
     
  5. hq357

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    Con 3 loaded mag tube empty chamber. the first shell is a bean bag round because i know there is a mentally disabled man in the neighborhood and i wouldn't want to kill him if he somehow broke into my house at night im not sure what he looks like but i know theres one to watch out for maybe he didnt take his meds and wandered off. And also i wouldn't want to kill somebody over a tv or if something that isn't life threatening happend and they were just trying to steal a tv id give him a chance to leave. if he dosent leave id hit him with the bean bag round and if he still dosent leave and comes after me the next round will be a 00 buckshot to the chest. im not sure if i should get rid of the bean bag round option. but then again i wouldn't want a lethal only. and if i killed a home invader id have to explain what happend in court so i might just keep the 1 bean bag round so they know i gave him a chance to leave and had no choice.
     
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  6. Donn

    Donn Active Member

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    Usually it's a pistol on the night stand. When my gut tells me I might need more, the 870's in C1, safety on. Kids are grown and gone, grandson lives in SoCal, so his visits are few and far between. Mrs. knows how to handle the shottie, just have to stay on her good side.;)
     
  7. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Full mag one in the chamber safety on. Same as the ar15 next to it and the pistols i carry.

    Cuts down on remembering whats loaded with what. Eapecially at night when i may be sleepy.
     
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  8. ninjatoth

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    In locked metal gun cabinet, Moss 500, 4 in the tube(can hold 5, but only 4 to not over compress the spring),empty chamber, safety off, hidden key 7 ft high in secret place near my bed.I have kids that are 6 and 7 so I have to juggle safety of them possibly getting into it with safety of bring able to get to it quick enough to stop a threat.
     
  9. bildee

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    If I had time for the longarm, I'd rather use that time to put on my body armor and my electronic, stereo earmuffs. CCW your pistol in your home, folks. that 10 seconds or so that you 'think" you'll have to get your longarm, you wont have, most likely. Normally, you never have to fire, IF you get the gun pointed at them soon enough. Misses change a lot of minds, too. :) Just imagine yourself being shot or stabbed, 4x per seond, and see if that 10 second run to get the longarm still seems to be ok with you. :)
     
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  10. John_Deer

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    I have a maverick 88 with an extended magazine. I keep it loaded with 7 shots. I don't like to keep the magazine spring fully compressed.
     
  11. ShagNasty1001

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    Modified condition 3...

    It's the only loaded firearm around me at night and 7 #4 shot should do the trick hopefully. Stands right next to my bed and my mini fridge
     
  12. John_Deer

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    What is your favorite holster for use while sleeping?
     
  13. duddie10

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    Con 3. My moss 835 is my skeet gun dont like to switch barrels. So i use a weatherby 92 4rds of high brass turcky load (live on the third floor). 2rds of 00 buck real close just in case. Shoots real good tried many different shells bird shot works well i got the turcky ammo on sale at cabelas so i use that now.
     
  14. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Eight in the tube, chamber empty, safety off, leaning against the corner of my bed.
     
  15. bargeahead

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    Mod Con 3 for petite wife with 870 youth. "some" deterrent comes from the racking sound; 'bout everybody knows that one.

    We live in new construction house with close neighbors so loads are #8, #8, #4, #2

    If we have to get to 4 and 2 overpen' is beyond considering

    There might be another or two of something else readily at hand.
     
  16. vincent

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    Mod con 3, Mossberg 835, when the shotgun was my primary HD ...

    Handgun is the 'go to' now due to space issues...(long, narrow hallway, small(er) rooms)

    Lots and lots of variables, great thread topic!
     
  17. armsmaster270

    armsmaster270 New Member

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    I keep mine fully loaded, cocked on an empty chamber, safety off. Pick it up hit the slide release and pump one in and shoot. That is the way I always carried it in my squad car.
     
  18. OldEagleEars

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    My primary is a 5" 1911A1 full of .45 ACP Hornady Critical Defense and it is in the nightstand drawer in the steel case I lock whenever I'm out of town (which isn't often) next to a high-powered flashlight. Also close are the carry-guns; an officers-sized 1911 and a .380 Bodyguard. The Mossberg lives behind the door mounted to a Gun-Grabber with an empty chamber (safety off) and a full tube of Rio field grade with Hydra-Shok's on the sidesaddle and a mix in the bandoleer/sling. Since the lethality of field-shot at the ranges I would be firing in my home has been proven I see no need to send 00-buck downrange and possibly endanger a neighbor needlessly. Since the typical home invader in this area is hardly a Spetsnaz-trained assassin but may be a bit tweaked (just for courage), I think I've covered my suburban bases.
     
  19. JW357

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    I don't currently own a shotgun, but I want a decent pump. When I get one, my wife and I like the idea of pumping once. It can be a deterrent and maybe even the equivalent of a warning shot. That is, an audible, universal sound that might make me not have to pull the trigger.

    Nothing says I can't keep one in the chamber, though, also. That way both sides win. If I have time to pump to try to scare him, I'll just eject a non-fired shell. No big deal to me. On the other hand, if I don't have time to pump, I'm already good to go. Everybody wins.
     
  20. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    None of the Pumps are loaded. They are locked in the safe. The Mossberg SA-20 Semi Auto is the HD shotgun, and it's for the wife to back me up with, along with her SP 101. I have the mag loaded with Herter's 20Ga. Slug rounds and mixed with their #1 Buckshot defense round. If it seems that either of us think we will require MORE then one of my .9's and her .357 then were going in the safe anyway if we can.

    (edited 8:20pm 7/26/13)
    Just to add to That: once my wife gets comfortable with her soon to be received Rossi Judge Shotgun Carbine(.410/45LC) we'll keep it loaded for her with Hornady Critical Defense FTX .410's, on her side of the bed. We're installing 2 small biometric safes in addition to the two regular ones we already have,..plus some type of "security closet" for the SA-20 & her Rossi...
     
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