Shield or Full Size?

Discussion in 'M&P Forum' started by Todd_, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. Todd_

    Todd_ New Member

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    Need some opinions from those who have owned or tried both.

    I have shot the M&P9 multiple times and have fallen in love with the pistol. The ergonomics make it feel like it was made for my hands! That being said, finances are a bit right around here right now but I REALLY want to nab my first handgun soon.

    That brings me to the shield.

    It's a single-stack M&P, correct? How does the grip feel compared to a full size? Does the felt recoil increase/decrease?

    The shield is a bit cheaper than the full sized pistols so I'm tempted to go that route to save some change as long as the pistol retains its incredible ergonomics.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. cvia

    cvia New Member

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    I haven't shot the shield yet but I did hold it. It is really thin. Made fore conceal carry. Check out hicock45 on YouTube. He seamed to really like it.
     

  3. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    Same here, never shot it but held it. Much smaller and thinner than my Glock26. Heard and read everyone good comments about the trigger pull. It will be a very good size for conceal purposes, to me IMO.
    The thing is, they are hard to get, almost none everywhere.
     
  4. cvia

    cvia New Member

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    I have found them in all the stores up here in Va but they go fast. That has to say something right. If you can't keep them in stock they gotta be ok.
     
  5. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    Only buy the Shield if you're primarily in the market for a concealed carry gun.

    For HD or range shooting the standard M&P or M&P compact will better serve almost all shooters. The Shield is a fantastic little gun...but it serves a singular and defined purpose.
     
  6. lucznik

    lucznik New Member

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    The Shield is one of the most comfortable 9mms I've ever shot. I was thinking I would get one for a carry gun and then get something bigger for home and range work, etc.

    After buying and shooting the Shield, I've changed my mind. This gun will easily serve all my "service auto" needs.
     
  7. Todd_

    Todd_ New Member

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    I live in Illinois, so concealing isn't an option. What exactly is it that defines the shield as a "singular purpose" gun?
     
  8. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    May be the fact of it size, was designed with the concealed carrier in mind, not being a devoted range gun.
     
  9. Todd_

    Todd_ New Member

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    I understand that it is a smaller handgun, thinner in the grip, and as a single-stack handgun it has a smaller magazine size. This will be my first handgun, so I HOPE it stays as a range gun, but it very well may serve as a home defense handgun to get me to my rifle or shotgun should the **** ever hit the fan (like I said, I hope it never comes to that).

    I just fail to see the logic behind deeming this to be "solely" a conceal and carry firearm. Yes, it's very well suited for that, but its still a magazine fed handgun. It may not be a full size pistol but it will go bang when you apply pressure with your booger picker to the boom boom switch, making it a via me home defense/open carry weapon. In fact, instead of saying that it is "solely" a conceal and carry piece, I would venture to say it just isn't a competition handgun. Everything else it should still do, right?

    I'm just trying to not get caught up in the "smaller/slim pistols are only for cc" type mindset. I'm merely asking for thoughts on the gun as it pertains to performance and ergonomics.
     
  10. Polygon

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    I don't own and I've never shot a full size M&P but I do have a Shield and I've shot many full size 9mm guns to compare. I agree that the Shield is a single purpose gun. It's for concealed carry. Sure, you can take it to the range, and you should. You should be familiar and always practice with the gun you carry. However, a full size gun is going to be more comfortable, more fun, and more accurate because you have more control of the gun. A compact 9mm like the Shield is going to have more recoil than the full size models. If I were getting a range/HD gun I would never consider a compact firearm. The compromise doesn't make sense. That's what compact firearms are, a compromise.
     
  11. sweeper22

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    Unless you have freakishly small hands, there are just too many reasons to opt for a larger framed M&P (or Glock, XD, whatever).

    I own a Shield and I carry it often. The fact is, it does handle more like a medium framed firearm than most similarly sized 9mms. That's what I love about it. But why not go with the gun that's more accurate (or rather, far easier to be more accurate with), has a higher capacity, and less felt recoil (translation: quicker follow-up shots)?

    If concealed carry does not enter into the equation, a fuller framed M&P is the better option for you. Yes, even for $50-100 more. Even for $200 more in my opinion, though that wouldn't be indicative of the prices around here.

    You call this "your first" handgun. The M&P is a solid choice. And the largest framed version that you're comfortable handling/shooting will ultimately reward you with the most immediate positive results at the range. That's worth an extra $100 in my opinion. And saving up for an extra M&P in 22lr will probably serve both your wallet and your skill very well. I've shot the MP22lr pistol. It's a very good gun that you could feed for hours on one $20 bill.
     
  12. pistolero_loco

    pistolero_loco New Member

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    depends on usage

    The Shield is a great carry gun, thin and light, good caliber for self defense, good trigger, accurate, reliable. The M&P 9C is thicker and heavier and is very similar to the Glock 26. Both S&W's are excellent (as is the Glock). If you are going to own one, then the 9C is probably more flexible in its usages. I prefer the mag with the pinkie extension. Dale Fricke makes great IWB kydex holsters for concealed carry. In particular, the Joshua Covert.
     
  13. Don Davis

    Don Davis New Member

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    IMHO you should check out the 9c.

    [​IMG]

    I was thinking about getting a shield.

    In doing my research I found the 9c - they are very close in size but the 9c has several benefits over the Shield.

    Capacity is one 9c hold 12+1 .

    I'd also suggest you look at the M&P 5" Pro model

    [​IMG]

    Both of these guns are very accurate & dependable

    :cool:
     
  14. Tertullus

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    I recently purchased a Shield for concealed carry and fired it for the first time during the concealed carry qualifications. It is much more accurate that I thought it would be. It has much less recoil than I thought it would have. The trigger and the sights are good. I also thought I would have a problem getting a grip with the smaller magazine, but I never even noticed it. If you are only going to shoot on the range then it would make sense to get a larger pistol, but if you want one that you will carry with you, this is the one to get. I am surprised and delighted at how well it shoots - or maybe how well I can shoot with it.
     
  15. gremlock686

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    For beginners, I was told always start with a full size hd gun. So no compact guns, or single stacks. Yes they are easy for concealment, because of size & weight, because thats what it is made for. But you can carry a full-size just as well dude. I have a full size, and I love it no other way, my opinion.
     
  16. lucznik

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    Wait; why no single stacks?

    Most standard 1911s are single stacks. S&W made single stack 3rd Gen guns like the 457, 4506, 908, and 3913 . Glock makes a single stack .45 (g30 I think). Ruger has a couple of single stack .45s (P90 and P945). Any of these would be good, full size guns that could be great for a "beginner."
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2012
  17. gremlock686

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    In that case, you are right Lucznik, I was just saying what I was told on a full size vs a compact for a first hd gun. CCW Class.
     
  18. pistolero_loco

    pistolero_loco New Member

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    I agree with this...

    I own both the Shield and 9C. Shield works well for CCW. The 9C however feels better in my hand and I prefer it if I have the option to carry something a little larger. I prefer the feel and natural pointing of the M&P's over Glocks that I have owned. (nothing wrong with Glocks however)
     
  19. shipwreck

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    Well, the 9mm Shield is my favorite small gun...

    Admittedly, not every gun is everything to everybody...

    However, I have previously owned a Kahr Pm9 and several 9mm doublestacked subcompacts over the years.

    At the time, I carried them a lot, but never really practiced with them too much. To me, they were never as fun to shoot as a fullsize gun. And, no matter how much I practiced, I always felt at a disadvantage compared to my larger guns.

    The Shield is the first subcompact I do not feel at a disadvantage with. What's funny is that it is even smaller than some of the 9mm doublestacks I previously owned.

    For me, I was happy enough with it to even sell a PX4 and buy a 2nd one with.

    My normal daily carry has been a Beretta 92 for 2.5 years. I had some health problems with a groin injury, and I haven't been able to wear a belt tight enough to hold up a 2.5lb+ Beretta 92. So, hence the search initially for a new pocket pistol that I actually liked.

    However, even after I recover... While the Beretta is and will be my favorite... I'm so used to being much more comfortable with the Shield in my pocket - I may just stick with it for good....

    Just my 2 cents. I'm accurate enough with this gun out to 15 yards that I'm confident with the gun.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2012
  20. frank7777

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    The shield is the most accurate 9mm I have fired