Sheriff says Ga. toddler killed by 7 dogs in yard as mother, other adults were inside

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  1. jp_over

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  2. orangello

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    It's the people/owners, not the dogs, that are the problem.
     

  3. Jagermeister

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    Who leaves a toddler outside alone?
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Apparently a TEEN MOM living in a home with three or four generations of her family. Sad, but there are reasons kids shouldn't have kids at their earliest opportunity.
     
  5. jp_over

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    Indeed. The sad thing is some folks think their dog is unfailingly protective of their children. In many cases, this is true. Yet given the right set of circumstances the dog will behave aggressively when the child does something that, in dog language, does not jive.

    For example, we have 2 Yorkshire Terriers. When my 2 year old gets in either of the dog's faces after chasing them around (under our watch, never to the extent of abuse), the dog will eventually growl and/or bare teeth. Of course, we correct both the kid and the dog immediately. However, when you're talking about a 50 - 80 pound animal and a toddler the possibility for grave injury is high. The possibility of grievous injury goes through the roof without supervision.

    I've even seen some news stories (where the child is killed or maimed) when the dog is allowed free reign in an infant's room/sleeping area.

    Here's my point: It's a dog people, not your child, act accordingly. This type of thing really makes my heart hurt for those children and unequivocally ticks me off.
     
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  6. Jstrong

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    I think you hit it right on the head Jp,when I first heard 7 pit/ pit mixes I thought immediately that they were fighting dogs. But the article says it was a bitch and a litter of that dogs that it had 16 months ago. Sounds like one of them didnt take well to something the child did and then pack mentality took over from there.

    Sad really,glad they were put down. If it was me they wouldn't have lasted till the first squad car got there though,family pet or not.

    I also thought that the owners should probably have been put down as well as the dogs,but it seems the child went through the doggie door to get outside with the dogs,while very unfortunate I don't see much of the fault laying on the mother. Children at that age are very curious and you can't keep an eye on them all the time,and even though the effort should have been made, it could have been only a matter of seconds between when the adults were out of sight and the time it took for 7 dogs to kill the child.

    If the dog food bowls were right outside the back door then the kid could have crawled out and one of the dogs that was food-defensive could have incited the attack as soon as the child cleared the doggie door.
     
  7. locutus

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    Pit bulls were originally bred as "nanny" dogs to watch toddlers. They're very good at it, because they're naturally protective and easily trained.

    Unfortunately, the ease of training also makes it very easy for "macho" arse-wholes to train them to be be fighters.

    Does anyone remember the evolution of

    "Them damned vicious devil dogs that oughtta be outlawed, by golly"

    60s Boxers
    70s, German Shepherds'
    80s Rottweilers
    90s Dobermans

    Now, Pit Bulls

    Next???????????
     
  8. jp_over

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    My outrage is mostly against a growing trend of careless parents who happen to be animal (of any type or breed) owners. And I agree about any type of "ban"; in fact, I don't advocate government solutions to just about anything as we all know how these turn out.

    Not sure where you got the info on how/why pit bulls were originally bred, but here's the most common explanation of their origin:

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/pit_bull.aspx

    Any of several cross-breeds of bulldog and terrier. Examples include the American pit bull terrier, bull terrier, and Staffordshire bull terrier. The English bull terrier, measuring c.40cm (16in) at the shoulder, was originally developed for bull-baiting. The American pit bull terrier, not an official breed, is c.50cm (20in) at the shoulder and was bred as a aggressive watchdog. Weight: up to 23kg (50lb).

    I haven't read anywhere that the dogs were originally bred to watch toddlers and I would consider having any animal "watch over" my child as the height of irresponsibility and criminality. Of course, some parents find this out the hard way and suffer from the lesson for the rest of their lives.
     
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  9. winds-of-change

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    I don't believe it is always the owner and not the dog. Yet, I don't fault the dogs. Just like there are "field labradors" and "pet labradors" I believe there is a line of Pits that are much more likely to fight than some other pits. Many breeders breed for temperament and I think there are many who breed 'fighting pits' vs. nice, friendly pits. I don't blame the dogs, just like I don't blame my Border Collie for wanting to herd anything that moves quickly.

    Would I want a Pit.........no, I wouldn't. :(

    And after reading the article.........whoa! That is some family dynamics.
     
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  10. AR10

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    Very sad.

    We have no kids, so we feel safe having a pair of the most fierce breed on the planet, the Maltese. Lol

    Having large aggressive dogs around kids, ends in failure quite often.

    Our dogs, outside bad photography, would never harm anyone. Good watch ears to let us know what is going on.

    Companionship does not have to be killers, or capable of killing. To allow this to happen by close contact with aggressive breed dogs, even if nothing happens, is child endangerment.

    It is like letting a child play with matches.

    Just like you buy your kids toys, buy your kids toy breed companion animals. You would not buy your child a table saw, why buy them a pit bull?

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  11. lfcshooter

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    What is it about this time of year where we get a spate of these horrific incidents.

    As a parent with two young kids I can't think of anything worse than a children ripped apart by these types of dogs. What must have gone through the poor child's mind I shudder to think.

    We have had two incidents over here already over the last month.

    Maybe it's because it's mating season and dogs temperament changes. People often forget dogs are pack animals, put a bunch of them together with a small child and they revert to primal instincts.

    Hell, we put a bunch of soccer fan's together, you know what happens then.
     
  12. MisterMcCool

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    NASCAR is really popular in the south. Some things go unnoticed.
     
  13. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Or basketball, football, baseball, Nascar, Rock and Roll, hiphop, etc.
     
  14. GSpears471

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    I agree animals have to be taught. We have 2 pits and they are very friendly, loyal to the family and almost like a family member. But why was there 7 dogs? Was it a rouge pack of dogs?
     
  15. texaswoodworker

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    What is that supposed to mean?
     
  16. winds-of-change

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    Put a bunch of hockey players together and a fight breaks out. LOL

    I don't get it, either. :confused:
     
  17. Colby

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    I have seen so many animals "turn" on their owners. Dogs, cats, horses, ...
    Pets that were regarded as docile and "would never hurt a fly". These animals do this on a sudden urge - some strange thought can go through their mind, instantly - and they often act very remorseful afterwards. But then it is too late. The deed is done. The sudden animal instinct or urge or provocation or whatever went through the animal's mind happened - and it turned - in that instant.

    Animals are animals and it should be remembered that they are animals - with different thought processes.
    To leave a child with an animal is way way too trusting and is jeopardizing that child's life.

    To see the results - the outcome of these things - like the post is just heartbreaking. and so completely needless - if the parent had just used plain old common sense.
    Animals are not little people. They are animals.
     
  18. locutus

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    If you read the papers in soccer season, there are many articles, especially from Latin America and Southern Europe where soccer fans riot over the final score, or an official's call and kill 10-20 of their own. Happens several times each year.
     
  19. urquidez

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    I dont like dogs or cats period will never have them around my kids But i love horses tho