Sharpes Rifle

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by ccase39, Sep 22, 2013.

  1. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    I am seriously considering getting an 1860's model Sharpes. Do any of you guys have any experience with these? Can I even find Ammo for it or do I have to load my own? Any recs on where to purchase?
     
  2. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Are .52 caliber cartridges even legal without a destructive device permit, or is there an exception for antiques and reproductions?
     

  3. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The 1860s Sharps were loaded with regular black powder poured into the chamber after dropping a bullet in. The military issued paper Ctgs. and percussion caps. The Mdl. of 1874 used center-fire ammunition. The Sharps ammunition and reloading components are available thru Buffalo Arms, Midway etc.
    You can get paper for rolling ammo for the early Sharps. My choice is the later 1874 model in .45-70 or 45-110. The .45-90 is a good choice and will work well with the .45-70 or 45-90. good luck.

    I am slamming some 600 meter gongs with a Sharps 1874 "Gemmer" Long Range with a Leatherwood period scope. I am firing a .45-110 CTG. laoded with 110 grs. of Goex express with a 550 grs bullet poured 20-1 and paper patched over a .060. "Vegie" wad. Unless you are an advanced black powder reloader go with the Sharps in a .45-70 caliber.
     

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  4. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    I definitely want one that shoots cartridges. I thought they started that in the mid 60.s. Looks like a mid 70s is what I am looking for. Any idea on pricing or good places to buy? I see them vary between 2k and 25k.
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I have shot a 1874 Sharps. Man, that thing has some serious recoil. :eek:
     
  6. nitestalker

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  7. ccase39

    ccase39 Member

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    God I have problems sighting in my 30-06. Once I get about 10 rds through it Im done.
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    get one in 45-70. the sheer massive weight of a octagon sharps makes it feel like a 223.

    you cant use anything but low powered off the shelf stuff in one anyway.
     
  9. rachilders

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    I guess some people could consider a Sharps to be the semi-auto of it's day (this area is about semi-auto rifles, right). I personally think it was the Henry, then the Winchester, lever actions.
     
  10. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I only shot one round out of it. And I kept checking my shoulder for bruising. I didn't get a bruise but, damn, that rifle hurt.
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Your length of pull is too short for a sharpes winds. A too long pull on a rifle really amplifies felt recoil since your stretching to reach the trigger this puts the stock way out of position.
     
  12. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Yes, I believe that was a part of it. They kept saying, "That didn't hurt, did it?" I said, "yes, it did." Them, "No, it didn't." Me, YES, IT DID!" Hahaha
     
  13. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The Sharps are proof tested to 35,000 PSI. In the 45-70 for long range you are not using the modern light bullets. The lead 550 grs. Lyman Postell, 45-70 will deliver a heavy recoil from a 13 lbs. rifle. The 45-110 delivers the power of the 458. Lott. These are not mild sporting rifles.
    The 45-70-550 . loaded with the paper patch can generate some serious power out to 1,000 yards.:) Many shooters today use the puff "Cowboy loads" the Buffalo Hunters were not playing it was for real.:)
     
  14. John_Deer

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    And the heavy barrel gives it the balance of a balloon anchor. I have never fired a sharps but I have fired black powder rifles with a long octagon barrel. I found the experience to be less than stimulating. It's a good thing one needs to hide behind something to hunt effectively. A lot of people can't hold up a sharps without a rest.
     
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