Sexy Fun...Bring The Kids!!!

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by ScottG, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    Fox News has a story posted about a Brooklyn sex shop that's "kid friendly."

    Nothing like taking a little stroll with the children and stopping by the ol' sex toy den is there! But hey! It's upscale, it's clean, it's well lighted (and probably articulate too!).

    They even helpfully provided a video tour!!!!

    And the mainstreaming of exposing sexual material to children continues apace.... :mad:
     
  2. Dillinger

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    Yeah - The local morning radio host had this as his issue of the day on either Thursday or Friday of last week. They had the lady on the phone and she stated her goal was to become "like a Wal*Mart" where you can shop in a "well light and friendly" environment. Never mind the guy in the trench coat eyeing your 7 year old as she runs up and down the aisles looking at marital aides...

    I am all for free enterprise, and sometimes you have to create a market when there is an opportunity, but I kinda think this is a little over the top...

    JD
     

  3. BigO01

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    O goody they have found a "Trendy" way to package one of the leading results of So******m/Communism , the removal of all morality .

    How odd it is that as we feared and fought against Communism and the loss of our basic freedoms from a threat on the other side of the world yet we had among us these wonderful "Progressive Thinkers" embracing and teaching it's basics too our young .

    The Freedom to do as you will is only a good thing when governed by some sense of morality or you wind up with millions of sexual deviates praying on us and our children with zero restraints including those of age .

    The above is the exact situation we now find ourselves in after decades of all of this "Progressive Thinking" with reports of crimes of molesting even infants being an almost daily occurrence on our local news programs .

    Now we even have in power those that will find laws against such disgusting behavior as same sex marriages perfectly normal and legal .

    Many often ask "Where will it all end" and the answer to that my friends is at the destruction of the greatest Nation to have ever existed , The United States of America .

    We are literally destroying ourselves from within with glee .
     
  4. c3shooter

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    (BARF!) Well, I guess next week they will be opening the massage parlor with the day care center! :eek:
     
  5. Splatter

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    Long rant...

    A couple of years ago I was looking at building a sauna for my home. So using the miracle of the interweb, I started to accumulate catalogs and spec-sheets to complete my plans. How big did I really want it, options for materials for construction, insulation, etc. I was also interested in options for wood-fired sauna heaters because I own and live on 40 acres of forest. But I was (am) concererned about carbon monoxide so I was looking at designs from around the world to see how everyone handled it.

    The literature that arrived had one thing in common, regardless of where it was produced. They all showed the saunas being used by happy, attractive families.
    The difference was that the smiling, attractive American families were nearly fully clothed. Not even racer-type swim suits were allowed and no one touched.
    In the Scandinavian literature the families were mostly au naturel, the females sometimes wore panty-type bottoms, and the older guys usually had a strategically placed towel; but the families didn't just smile to the camera, they smiled at each other, and the 'couples' held hands or sat close to each other (ya, I realize they were models acting a part). Last I heard, neither Norway nor Finland had destroyed themselves.

    When I was a young lad I remember going to the public swimming pool, the men's change room was one big room with lockers on the walls and a big open shower room at one end. The men and boys would come in from the pool and strip in the shower, soap-up, rinse... in short, they'd have a shower. They'd talk and kid each other while doing so, share shampoo if someone forgot theirs, etc.

    When I was a boyscout, out on a long hike, if we came to a creek, or anyplace suitable for a quick swim, we'd strip-off and hit the water, the dads and scout leaders too.

    My dad relates stories from the early 1950's, of being a young soldier and standing in line-ups for hours with other naked soldiers. And no one thought anything of it.

    Was the 1940's, 50's, 60's, 70's and '80's that much more dangerous than it is now? I submit that it was not. True there were always stories of the odd guy getting attention he didn't want; but I doubt it was more common then it is now.
    I also doubt it was any less common than it is now.

    Think-back to your history lessons about the pioneers settling the west, 2 room houses with one big bed and 6 kids. Do you really think that everyone grew-up never having caught mommy and daddy "wrestling"? Was everyone from that era traumatized? or do you think that people just considered it as a natural part of life and looked the other way?
     
  6. Splatter

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    So it's your contention that during the Soviet era, in the countries behind the "Iron Curtain", there was no state enforced morality, and "free love" was practiced, and homosexuality and "sexual deviance" was celebrated?
     
  7. bkt

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    No, I'm thinking it's more along the lines of normalizing amoral behavior, letting the whole thing collapse, then replace it with a strict social and moral code a la Stalin.

    I'm a huge fan of live and let live, but if we as a society start not giving a damn about kids, we deserve the worst we get.
     
  8. Splatter

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    So you believe that in the past we didn't care about kids? That only the past 20 years or so, have we started to "give a damn about kids"?
    And that's why today kids in general are safer and better behaved than they were decades ago?
     
  9. bkt

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    No, I'm pretty sure that's not what I said.
     
  10. hillbilly68

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    Yeah not a fan of exposing the kids to it at that early of an age, especially in the format of someone else's opinion. However the other views that this is "amoral" for the adults I am not so sure of. The puritanical sexually repressed society is one that cultivates the amoral and deviants. Am I a conservative? Yes. Are morals and a healthy safe environment important to me so I can raise my kids the right way? Absolutely. Do I want it in my face every time I go out in public? No. But I think that we go overboard a lot of times, we are ridiculous in some cases when it comes to ignoring the human form and sexuality. Bad things happen in secrecy an drepression, shouldn't teach our kids that it is "bad" 'cause if we let someone else teach them it won't go well. The "if we dont talk about it it doesnt exist" philosophy of the former generations led to the backlash of the 60s and produced such over the top "activists" and organizations that are so far away from the norm they make Larry Flynt look like Billy Graham. Know this is a departure from the original post but I saw a lot of undertones (and overtones) that generated interest from the members.
     
  11. Quasi

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    The Europeans think we're really uptight about these kinds of things--they're much more open about sexual issues there. I was a little shocked to see families with kids strolling through the red light district in Amsterdam, but I respect the cultural differences and the rights of parents to make their own decisions in raising their kids.

    It is interesting how many "conservatives" claim to believe in freedom, except when it intersects with sexual issues or non-Christian religion.
     
  12. bkt

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    Speaking for myself only, of course, kids should be kept insulated from smut 'til they're of an age when they can understand it and can (hopefully) make the right decisions on their own.

    While I tolerate whatever other adults choose to do to/with one another, that doesn't mean I endorse it or would join 'em. Being respectful of others' freedom is not an implicit approval of their behavior.

    Europe doesn't impress me. At all.
     
  13. Dillinger

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    I have to agree with bkt. I personally don't care what anyone, anywhere, wants to do with anyone else, as long as they are of age of consent. I agree that all children should be educated, especially when it comes to sex, but that education doesn't necessarily need to take place in Aisle 3 between the Bondage equipment and the titles of Jenna Jameson, does it?

    JD
     
  14. Quasi

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    I agree with both of you on this. But having carefully read the article and watched the video about the place, I just don't feel the outrage. Is it because this store is clean? Is it just the baby-changing station? Or is it just Fox News sensationalism about pretty much nothing?
     
  15. Dillinger

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    Well then, you missed my first post where I talked about how the owner was on a local radio station and her goal is to become "like Wal*mart".

    I am not outraged about it. Once again, if someone wants to take their kid there, that is there business. However, we have NC-17 movies that you CAN NOT bring someone who is under the age of 17 into, no matter who is with them. Now, I ask you, is "Flashpoint", the number 1 selling porn title of all time, the same as Eyes Wide Shut? Obviously not - and I realize that seeing the box cover isn't the same as seeing the whole movie. Save it. Have you seen a porn DVD or box title in the past few years?!

    Now, if you want your kid to see that, great. More power to you. I am sure he or she will grow up to be something, maybe even President. :D However, I don't, personally, think you need to have them viewing it, in public, in front of some of the "types" of people that go to these places. However, I am not opposed to it if that is what the parents really want. I merely said that I personally felt it was a bit over the line...

    JD
     
  16. Quasi

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    My wife and I don't have kids, so I should probably disqualify myself from this discussion, but if I did, I'd probably be a lot more concerned about their access to the Internet than a store like that. In the video interview with the owner, she makes a point of saying that they specifically don't display explicit imagery, and I didn't see anything pornographic in the tour of the store.

    I haven't seen Flashpoint, but it sounds like we may have to check it out; thanks for the recommendation. :)
     
  17. Righteous

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    we have a store like that here, well several really. I can have more fun in those then most anybody if ya know what to do.
    Heres how ya go about it........
    Nobody wants to stand next to anybody in those places so everybody is on a different wall looking at different stuff, soon as one person moves another takes there place and everybody moves to a new spot but..... not me....I go stand next to everybody and anybody and see what there looking at and pick up something like it and start to compare by looking over at them and even asking them questions about it, this usually embarrasses them or freaks them out LOL try it sometime..... it be funny as hell.
     
  18. RL357Mag

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    As fas as making societal comparisons between now and the 1940's, 50's, 60's and 70', during those era's we did not have Gay & Lesbian Day Parades, Gay's trying to force their way into the ST. Patties' Day parade, Nambla was not in existence, and neither was the ACLU fighting for the rights of homosexuals to become Scout Leaders. Sex Ed wasn't on the Elementary School Curriculum, and neither were books like Sally has Two Mommies or Johnny has Two Daddies, also parents would have been shocked to hear that condoms were being provided free of charge to their pre-adolescent teens or that their 13 yr. old daughter had a Planned Parenthood funded abortion without their knowledge or consent! Yes we live in a different world - and I don't agree that sexual promiscuity helps a damned thing, and in fact I believe it hurts. Consenting adults may do whatever they want, just stop assaulting our kids and forcing them to become adults before their time!
     
  19. Dillinger

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    We don't have kids either, so maybe my post is meaningless, but we do have 11 nieces and nephews, with another on the way, between us.

    Flashpoint, I can assure you, isn't the most purchased title just by chance. :cool:

    Jenna loves Bella Donna is another GREAT choice.... But, I digress...

    I just feel that, even if you cover the fronts of the covers, an "adult entertainment store" makes it's profits on more than the TOP 10 listed movies. There will be "other implements" that are identifiable once a child is able to form a voice and opinion on something.

    After all, how many parents have had the situation when a child wanders in, after a shower or while getting dressed, and asks, "What's That?"

    Again, if the kids' parents want them to be subjected to that, they should have that right. I would never subject anyone to my beliefs, because I know that I am hypocritical. :eek::eek::eek:

    However, personally, I think an adult video/book store is a place for us grown ups. I wouldn't want my nieces or nephews in there before they were old enough to understand "Just Anyone" could perform like this... there is maturity that is needed before you are subjected to the fantasy world of porn... After all, not every woman you meet is going to "beg for @nal"

    JD
     
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2008
  20. ScottG

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    More's the pity....