Settle An Argument

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by user4, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. user4

    user4 New Member

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    I am trying to put a few finishing touches into my Armageddon Bag (a.k.a. BoB)
    and I mentioned to my wife that I wanted a medical staple gun. Of course, I got the knee jerk reaction of "No way!" and that "you can't buy those" (even though you sure can) and "only a doctor should use those"(to which I say BS).

    There are a ton of good life saving wound closers, but a staple gun is cheap and effective and has more practicability than many other such items.

    So the question stands: To buy a medical staple gun or to NOT buy a medical staple gun. That is the question.
     
  2. ranger_sxt

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    What sort of Bug Out Bag are you building (a get-home bag, a bag for all contingincies, a bag to get you to a rendezvous/cache point, a 3B Bag)? Where are you bugging out to? How long do you plan on having to bug out for?

    Given all of those variables, I would have to think about your plan to put that in a bag. It would take some serious convincing for me to include anything like that in a bag that I carry. I think it would be better in a cache or a bug out vehicle.
     

  3. user4

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    I'm talking about the "democrat zombies causing a civil war" bug bag. But it doesn't really matter. There's room, and it's a small item, and it's cheap.

    A cache is just not practical for me right now, given the distances I need to travel to my getaway.
     
  4. Dillinger

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    I'm inclined to agree with you on this one Ineff. You are more talking a "head for the hills, load up all you think you are going to need in the vehicle and make a break for it" bag not a traditional Bug Out Bag.

    JD
     
  5. ScottG

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    It sounds funny, but staples are better than sutures. Especially if you have to sew yourself up!!!

    I believe many ob/gyns now use staples to close up c sections.

    The Romans used staples to bind wounds, so it's not a new idea.
     
  6. user4

    user4 New Member

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    Precisely correct
     
  7. user4

    user4 New Member

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    This is exactly what precipitated the idea. We went in today to get my wife's staples removed (as if I couldn't do that). And the fact you can do it yourself is a HUGE plus to me.
     
  8. Jay

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    I work in a hospital.

    Without the proper removal tool, you would not be on your wife's Christmas list. Trust me, without that tool, removal is not nice.
     
  9. Dillinger

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    Well, that begs the question as to whether or not a civilian can purchase said staple puller-outer tool thingy???

    I simply must know now....:p

    JD
     
  10. Jay

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    NOT endorsing any brand, or vendor (search for medical staple remover)...... but do your potential patient a favor and buy a sterile kit. Not expensive, but used haphazardly, they can be a huge source of infection.

    http://www.egeneralmedical.com/mme-82762.html

    ...I get know now points for this, right?
     
  11. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Yes - +10 Know Now points for Jay. So let it be written, so let it be done. I also owe you one answer to any further firearms or MMA related question. :D

    Thank you!

    JD
     
  12. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    You're welcome. Hey, that's the smartest I've been all day. ;)
     
  13. user4

    user4 New Member

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    So true, but then, if I'm buying a staple gun, it follows (or should follow) that the removal tool is in the bag too.

    What do you do at the hospital?
     
  14. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    I worked on the rehab unit in the VA hospital for 5 years until my service-connected knees crapped out. Now I'm in health information management.
     
  15. user4

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    I've taken a gander at your arsenal. I'm sticking you in the bag too ;)
     
  16. Jay

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    Careful... do not fold, spindle, or mutilate old people. Besides, you know what they say about old men.......

    I'm kinda partial to most of those. Not all the good stuff is on there. I'm taking a truck load out to the range tomorrow..... then come home and clean for two days, and reload for four more.... keeps me off the street. :rolleyes:
     
  17. chopkick

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    I bought mine from either the sportsman's guide or cheaper than dirt and it came with a remover.
     
  18. Boris

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    Well I once sewed up my right hand and arm after a bit of an accident over there (couldn't afford the trip to the emergancy room for a second time). Half a bottle of gin later I got it done, wasn't pretty in fact looked like a patchwork quilt, but stress it hurt......my advice...get one............:)
     
  19. ranger_sxt

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    I'm going to stick with my original thoughts and say there are more important things to put in a BOB.

    Unless you have local anesthetic, it will be quite painful to put on. If you don't have a sterile environment, you're going to have to pre-emptively treat for infections...
     
  20. user4

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    The funny thing about infections is they get worse if you DON'T close the wound.

    I shall inform my wife that you are solidly in her court.