Serial number?!?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by janikphoto, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. janikphoto

    janikphoto New Member

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    What is the point of people being secretive about their firearm serial numbers? Whenever you see someone selling or discussing a firearm, they are always vague about the serial number (like - This rifle is a 6XX,XXX serial number, so it was made in 1962).

    Is there a reason other than being scared/paranoid that the government will have specific information available to them? None of my weapons are stolen that I'm aware of, so I'm not afraid of a previous owner finding it. None of them are collectible enough to worry about the serial number attracting burglars. So, what is your reasoning?

    I think I do it mostly for the paranoid reason, personally... At least on the firearms that I didn't have to already register the serial number with the feds. However, I then think to myself that seems kind of pointless. I talk about the models I own enough that people can figure out what I have and don't have already...
     
  2. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    I do it because I can only remember the first couple of digits from all of the guns I lost during the horrific FTF boating accident. Not sure why others do that, but that is my story and I am sticking to it....:D
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    I look at it like this.

    You never ask people how they vote. You don't walk around town with your junk hanging out of your fly. You don't walk up to a nice young lady and say how big are your jugs.

    Same goes for serial numbers of firearms. You don't need to know my serial numbers. Do you go around on car forums posting your cars vin? No it is just protection. Someone somewhere is a bad person with the skills needed to put your serial number on the gun they just used to kill their wife.
     
  4. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Great analogy Tango. :D

    Some call it paranoid, I call it prudent.
     
  5. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I almost spit my coffee on my keyboard. Thanks Tango.
     
  6. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Maybe it's owners that have guns with a history of wife abuse?

    I'm just sayin'. [​IMG]
     
  7. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I walk around town with my junk hanging out of my pants cuff.

    I can't believe you, of all people, wouldn't question a woman on her jugs.

    I'm just glad we survived that damn boating accident.
     
  8. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    I second that, although, are you completely certain about the jug-thing Tango?
     
  9. janikphoto

    janikphoto New Member

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    I'm not talking about junk hanging out in public. I'm more or less talking about when an ad for a gun is placed. And to use the car VIN analogy... yes, you do get it and can run a carfax report. I'm not really talking about randomly posting all your serial numbers at random for no reason.
     
  10. cpttango30

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    You don't post serial numbers all over the place because you just shouldn't do it.

    there are people out there that don't like you for what ever reason. That is all they have to do.

    Say you have an ex girlfriend that is just a tad on the effing crazy biznatch side of things (NINJA PLEASE We all have them). She is cyberstalking you an sees that you posted a serial number of one of your guns on the interwebs. Now being the crazy she is takes that number down and calls the PO PO (Police) and says. I just noticed that my pinking 176 loundenpuffer is missing it is valued at $3500 and here is the sieral number I think it was my ex that took it because I seen him posting the serial number on the interwebs at w1ww.idiotgunowners.com/net/edu/forum.

    This is all a lie but all it is going to do is cause you hate and discontent. More headaches that you don't want.

    So for your own good just don't do it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2010
  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Pretty much my thought. Some DB could report YOUR guns stolen in HIS burglary and have LE go after YOU to get HIS gun back for him. Omitting the last two or three characters of the S/N will still enable the potential purchaser to determine the pedigree and year of manufacture.
     
  12. janikphoto

    janikphoto New Member

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    This is good enough reason for me. Thanks for a very logical reason against it!
     
  13. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Let's address this first. Where do you live, and how exactly did you get your guns on the federal registration list?

    You didn't. Since there is no FEDERAL firearms registry. A handful of states require it, but the feds do not.




    Second, I do it for the same reason as has already been denoted. If I don't put that info out there. Nobody can falsely state that its theirs.
     
  14. c3shooter

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    Agree- but sometimes you need some of the number. Gent was selling a Marlin lever action. SOME of that model are old enuff to be covered by my C&R FFL, some are not. Year is denoted by letter prefix of the SN. Asked one seller what the letter prefix was- got instant paranoia.

    I serve on a firearms question forum- gent wanted to know what year was his Ruger made- SN 12XXXXX. We told him his Ruger was made in 19XX.:p
     
  15. janikphoto

    janikphoto New Member

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    I seem to remember seeing the gun stores copy it down when they call in my background check. Maybe it is only going on the store paperwork and not the gov paperwork?!?
     
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The S/N is written on the form 4476 at the store when you purchase it. That form stay in the store until the store goes out of business. The forms are then sent to ATF who is forbidden by law from computerizing. ATF can go to the store and inspect their records. They can take notes from the forms but the form stays in the store. I occasionally send requests to ATF to trace a record. Generally it is because a gun was stolen in a burglary and the owner does not have the S/N. ATF can look up the forms from defunct dealers but I have to give them store name and address, purchaser name and DOB, make, model and caliber of the firearm and month and year of the purchase. They have to physically look at the form 4476's kept in archives. it usually takes a few days to get a response.