Sent in the paperwork for a suppressor/silencer today

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by rachilders, May 9, 2014.

  1. rachilders

    rachilders New Member

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    I sent in my paperwork to the ATF for a Gemtech GM-22 suppressor today for my M&P 15-22. Got a decent price ($325, MSRP $395) and the local dealer provided all the paperwork other than taking photo's for the Form 4. Got the pictures taken last weekend and had the local police chief sign off on it a few days ago. Since I'm a police volunteer, he was happy to do it and is considering one for a hog rifle himself. He asked how long it's taking these days and I said I'm not sure but if it's like the SBR I built a few years back, probably 7-9 months. Since I also submitted the SBR paperwork in May and received the stamp just after Christmas, we'll see whether this stamp takes less time or more.

    Anyway, has anyone recently received a stamp for a suppressor/silencer and how long did it take the BATF to return the paperwork? :rolleyes:
     
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  2. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    Could not tell ya because I have only started the process for FFL recently


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  3. County Boy

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    I'm on the fence right now about getting one for my 22/45 that I bought a couple of months ago, where I live I was told about a 9 to 10 month wait ..... I really should get off my butt and do it though
     
  4. JonM

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    yes you should!! the 22/45 is the best suppressor host in 22lr

    you not going to like it on a mp15-22. the long barrel keeps the rounds supersonic 90% of the sound of a 22lr firing is the super sonic crack. there is little diff on long guns. if you use subsonic or 22long it wont cycle

    ive got a silencerco sparrow ss and a mp15-22 along with other 22lr. best hosts are pistols and bolt guns that can handle slower speed rounds
     
  5. County Boy

    County Boy New Member

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    Thanks for that push to get going on that JonM... I read an article on my phone CNN Money app that was saying that suppressor sales have increased in applications by around 100,000 a year in the last few years, I read that about a couple weeks ago, plus an article in Gun Tests magazine that I subscribe to had a review of 3 pistols with suppressors and the Ruger was the best choice to go with ( Walther, S & W MP .22, and the Ruger 22/45 Lite).
     
  6. cotex

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    It is absolutely ridiculous that you can buy a handgun a shotgun rifle in five minutes walk out of that store but yet you have to apply and it takes 10 months read Dick you list!!! With that said I have a 22 silencer for my 2245 and it's sitting in my safe I don't shoot it as much as I'd like to but when I do I don't hear much. I've been to a lawyer and were working on the gun trust we just haven't finalized. And why again are they so expensive?
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  7. JonM

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    expensive because the market is relatively small. if there was not a hoplophobic paranoia by the elected leadership and you could get them at walmart and not have stupid 9 month wait for a device that aids in hearing safety the economy of scale would have them a LOT cheaper.

    but since there are relatively few people willing to go through the hassle they have to be expensive to make them worth selling as a business.

    the vast majority of suppressors are sold on the civilian market not miltary and police.
     
  8. mboylan

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    Suppressors have been NFA since 1934. There is nothing new about that. The $200 tax back then was equal to over $3000 in today's dollars. Up until 2000 or 2001, trusts were not acceptable. You had to have a CLEO willing to sign.


    Suppressors are more accessible than they have been in the last 80 years.
     
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  9. msup752

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    What changed in 2000? Transfers to trusts is written into the original NFA law. That is why it would take an act of congress to get rid of trust transfers and our POTUS can't wave his pen and make them disappear.

    I mailed a form 4 in June 2013 and got the stamp last April. So 10 months average right now but the ATF claims they have boosted staff and cut the backlog from 90k to 70k. I'm sending a form 1 in very soon. I guess I'll be waiting 6+ months to find out since e-file is down


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  10. DrFootball

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    Checked into it a bit. They say as little as 6-9 months with a trust, a little longer without...


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  11. Olympus

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    Got mine recently. It took 10 months and I submitted it as a trust. Best thing is to just forget that you've even applied. The wait is terrible.
     
  12. therukh

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    The Wait

    I've been submitting NFA paperwork off and on since the late 80's when I got my MP5. Over the last several years I've been submitting paper on suppressors and it used to be about three to four months before Obama (BO). I had paperwork in the works during and just after the regime change and was talking to a NFA agent on the phone during the wait and asked what the "normal" wait time was. He said, very slowly, "normal left the building in November." I had to laugh even though it meant that my wait was going to be long, long, long. I recently talked to my Class 3 dealer friend who said that in our area it is averaging 10 to 13 months with some going to 15 months, trust or individual. I agree that the best thing is to forget the paperwork and just go on without thinking about it because it is such a nice surprise when they call and tell you to come get your transfer. There is no sense in worrying about it or it will drive you to try and do something and there is nothing you can do, except call and make a pest of yourself. That does not help. Examiners are human and don't like being bothered. They lost a few examiners some time back and were slow in replacing them but now seem to be handling the transfers much better - the backlog is huge though. As they explained to me, if there is anything wrong with your paperwork, it will be sent back to be fixed and you go to the back of the line when it is returned to them. So, sit back and enjoy the wait! ;)
     
  13. mboylan

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    Revocable Living Trusts were not written into the NFA as an acceptable transferee. Corporations and LLCs and some other legal entities are. It took an ATF decision to add them.