Semi-arid/arid climate SHTF

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by bigbomar4, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. bigbomar4

    bigbomar4 New Member

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    Ok so I know the basics. Stock up on food and water and the like but in almost every thread I see on here once that is all used up everyone just says "I'll head to the woods" or what ever.

    Well there are no woods around here. It is farm land as far as you can see in any direction. There is no game other than the occasional rabbit or bird if its the right time of year. There is very little to no water.

    The best thing I could think of is to go to my families farm 90 miles NE of here. 30 miles east of there on some friends land is some decent hunting and a small amount of wild fruit but still very little water.

    So my question is what would yall do in my situation if SHTF? I am slowly stocking up on supplies but without being able to replenish with fresh stocks I kind think me and everyone in this area might be up s*** creek.

    Sorry for the long post.
     
  2. sbeezy

    sbeezy New Member

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    Do you keep stores at the family farm? If I had a farm at my disposal I'd store stuff there. But I'd want to get there as soon as possible to secure everything and make sure no one steals it all or takes up shop in your home.
     

  3. sbeezy

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    And as far as water, since it's farmland aren't there irrigation canals?
     
  4. bigbomar4

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    We have two wells on our land. The shallow one is 450ft deep. That would be kinda hard to use if the power for the electric pumps went out. I suppose we could try to get the old windmill up and running again but that well was capped back in the 30's so I don't know if its even deep enough to draw water anymore.

    As for supplies, we keep some up there and what we have is safe but it is not sustainable. We have a decent garden but most of the land leased out to a cousin who grows cotton or feed hay on it.
     
  5. Vikingdad

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    Last time I was through Texas farm country there were wind pumps pumping water from the ground and stock tanks to hold it in. These days there are probably lots of solar pumps too. Take a look around, you might find they are still there. A buddy of mine has a place down south of here where they get 5 inches of rain a year in a wet year. Last season they got 5 inches, but 4 of it was in one storm system that lasted only a couple of days. There is absolutely no surface water to be found anywhere around there. Creekbeds are bone dry. But he still has his antique Aeromotor windmill pump standing over the one hand dug well. I could get that sucker working in a day I'm sure. If not there is always a rope and a bucket.

    (Edit) You posted as I was writing. I don't think a wind pump will pull water up 450 feet. Solar electric will though.
     
  6. Vikingdad

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  7. bigbomar4

    bigbomar4 New Member

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    The only solar powered pumps I have seen around here are at the research farms near Lubbock. All the other pumps are the occasional old natural gas or electric pumps. I will look into the solar though.
     
  8. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    wind mill pumps can pump as deep as solar (around 1000').
     
  9. JeeperSC

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    Make a pond and put in some fish. Learn how to grow vegetables.......
     
  10. Vikingdad

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    I have a buddy who has 60 acres up in Tehama (northern CA) where is is as dry as a bone in the summer (most of CA is extremely dry in the summer and fairly wet in the winter0 Tehama gets about 23 inches of rain annually and none of it comes during the summer.) Anyhow, one of his neighbors put in a solar powered well pump and it pumps as long as the sun is shining so he built a 5 acre pond to pump the water into. The pond stays full all summer long.
     
  11. therewolf

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    Oh, arid like the sun's gonna come out again?

    It's been raining here every day for the past month.
     
  12. nitestalker

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    How do you get lost on the family farm? It sounds like you are with in cell phone range of the house. If you are afraid of being "Dry" cache some water jugs around the cow pasture. :)
     
  13. bigbomar4

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    Ok as for the wind mill like I said it's well was capped in the 30's when the water table was much higher so even if we got it working again the well might be dry.

    As for the pond idea we have a normal annual rain fall of 16 inches a year. Right now we are in the 3rd year of a drought.

    On the land just to the west of us (owned by a different cousin) there is a playa lake. When it rains it will swell to almost 40 acres but it will be dry in less than a month. Water does not last long around here.
     
  14. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    Playas will dry up in no time because they are shallow which allows for more rapid evaporation. A well built stock pond is deep.
     
  15. hiwall

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    bigbomar4, I agree with you that open air water storage in your area is not the best idea. Any water storage is just a temporary fix. A permanent fix would be a well with a wind mill(but quite expensive). Buy a plastic water tank and fill it for storage or make a cement cistern for storage. Neither would cost that much and supply a fair amount of temporary water.
     
  16. bildee

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    I'd figure on getting the hell out of there, preferably before shtf, but if need be, afterward. But go offroad, via a quiet model of motorcycle, and go at night. So it takes you all night to cover 150 miles safely, using active IR goggles, so what? Everyone has eyes and is out and about in daylight. A guy, moving 10-20mph(depending upon terrrain) is an almost impossible target, beyond 200 yds in daylight, beyond buckshot range at night. You'd be much better off, some place with trees and water.