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I'm thinking of selling one of my handguns to a buddy that lives here in the same city as me. Will he have to pay a transfer fee? I figure he would but wasn't sure.
 

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Not if private sales are legal in your state-
I strongly suggest you both have signed receipts & you have his DL number!

OK, you're in Texas- no transfer at FFL needed
 

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I strongly suggest you both have signed receipts & you have his DL number!
OK, you're in Texas- no transfer at FFL needed
This guy is like family to me so I'm not really concerned with getting his DL#. I do have a Firearm Bill of Sale that we will both fill out and have copies of.
 

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Texas does not require that a sale to a resident of the same state go thru a FFL. Some states do.

So long as you do not have reason to believe he cannot own a gun legally, you can.

Some folks will suggest you do so anyway. Me, I'd write up a bill of sale, make, model, serial number, your names. 2 copies. Both sign, each keeps a copy.
 

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This guy is like family to me so I'm not really concerned with getting his DL#. I do have a Firearm Bill of Sale that we will both fill out and have copies of.
FYI- I sold a handgun to a very good friend & he later sold it to a "guy" that commited a homicide with it---
Cover your azz ;)
 

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FYI- I sold a handgun to a very good friend & he later sold it to a "guy" that commited a homicide with it---
Cover your azz ;)
Or it could be stolen from friend or friends house.

Another good reason to have not just bill of sale but FFL transfer. It's only like $10 for Christ's sake. Don't be a cheapskate, get the official transfer and register it. This way if it's stolen from your friends home is covered under his insurance and filing police report doesn't become a major hassle. Just my thought.
 

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This guy is like family to me so I'm not really concerned with getting his DL#. I do have a Firearm Bill of Sale that we will both fill out and have copies of.
Yes you are. Trust me. Getting his DL# is a positive manner of identification that is much harder to deny than a name. If he gets his butt in a crack he is liable to throw you under the bus. Protect yourself. Get the DL number.
 

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Or it could be stolen from friend or friends house.

Another good reason to have not just bill of sale but FFL transfer. It's only like $10 for Christ's sake. Don't be a cheapskate, get the official transfer and register it. This way if it's stolen from your friends home is covered under his insurance and filing police report doesn't become a major hassle. Just my thought.
Yea, not everywhere. Around here FFL's are charging $50-75 to do a transfer. The cheapest I have found is $35.
 

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Simple enough, just ship it to an FFL in his area and let him deal with the transfer fees at that point. Even if it costs $10 or $50 in this age we are living in, you're best off to have a paper trail IMO. I don't know how the rest of the forum will take that comment, but at least it's how I feel.
 

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I must be missing something because if Texas is anything like Tennessee you do not have a firearm transfer. You buy it from a dealer they check the firearm with the government (to make sure it wasn't stolen or used in a crime) then they check you with the government to see if you can legally own a firearm. Thats it. The only benefit of going to a dealer would be for the buyer to make sure it wasn't stolen.
 

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I must be missing something because if Texas is anything like Tennessee you do not have a firearm transfer. You buy it from a dealer they check the firearm with the government (to make sure it wasn't stolen or used in a crime) then they check you with the government to see if you can legally own a firearm. Thats it. The only benefit of going to a dealer would be for the buyer to make sure it wasn't stolen.
You need to reread the entire thread-
BTW- going to a FFL WILL NOT show if the gun is stolen or not-
 

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Simple enough, just ship it to an FFL in his area and let him deal with the transfer fees at that point. Even if it costs $10 or $50 in this age we are living in, you're best off to have a paper trail IMO. I don't know how the rest of the forum will take that comment, but at least it's how I feel.
Bingo. Though you guys paying those FFL transfer fees are getting reamed! Man renews a little love for Oregon!
 

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I must be missing something because if Texas is anything like Tennessee you do not have a firearm transfer. You buy it from a dealer they check the firearm with the government (to make sure it wasn't stolen or used in a crime) then they check you with the government to see if you can legally own a firearm. Thats it. The only benefit of going to a dealer would be for the buyer to make sure it wasn't stolen.
The FFL checks the gun with the government? Really? Since when? An FFL cannot run an NCIC check. You are in Texas, embrace your freedom and sell the gun to your friend. Rest easy. NOTHING else is necessary.
 

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The FFL checks the gun with the government? Really? Since when? An FFL cannot run an NCIC check. You are in Texas, embrace your freedom and sell the gun to your friend. Rest easy. NOTHING else is necessary.
I think he was confusing a background check and serial registration with running gun in system. Here in Oregon during background check the FFL gives firearm serial, which could lead one to believe it too is going through check of some sort. I can understand that. I asked my FFL what that was all about first time I went through so that's the only reason I don't have same belief now. I ask way too many questions. Lol
 

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It's only like $10 for Christ's sake. Don't be a cheapskate, get the official transfer and register it.
Check your facts, bud. Firearms don't get registered to owners here in Texas. I will do a Firearms Bill of Sale as others have suggested that will have his info and the serial# of the pistol. If it's stolen from his home we will both be covered by the bill of sale that is signed and dated by both of us.
 

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Simple enough, just ship it to an FFL in his area and let him deal with the transfer fees at that point. Even if it costs $10 or $50 in this age we are living in, you're best off to have a paper trail IMO. I don't know how the rest of the forum will take that comment, but at least it's how I feel.
As stated in the original post, I live in the same city as the guy I'm selling it to. He actually lives 3 blocks away from me.
 

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Check your facts, bud. Firearms don't get registered to owners here in Texas. I will do a Firearms Bill of Sale as others have suggested that will have his info and the serial# of the pistol. If it's stolen from his home we will both be covered by the bill of sale that is signed and dated by both of us.
I'd still have him check with his insurance provider and see if that's sufficient enough incase of home theft.

Also doing it with FFL provides you a more official "bill of sale", which is a registration of sorts which is what I was referring to. It just legitimized the transfer and should anything happen they keep records that can be provided if such a situation were to arise, or at least mine does.
 

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I'll mention calling his insurance provider to him. He's a realtor so he may have already done that. I appreciate all the advice as well.
 

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I can't give advice on the laws in Texas, nor anywhere else. I am not a liar.... er, I mean Lawyer. However. I can tell you what I do regarding private transferers.

I keep an In and out file on my computer that has a bill of sale for all private purchases of firearms that I do. Make, model, serial number, caliber\gauge. barrel length, etc. on the gun.
As to the purchaser or seller, I only buy or trade to and from people I have known for years. I make 2 copies of a bill of sale, copies of both driver's lisences, and copies of pistol permits, and pictures of the firearm and a traceing of it's serial number. Here in NY, there is an additional step if it is a pistol. I only purchase pistols in my county, so we both go to the pistol permit clerk's office, pay the three dollars each to get it transfered from theirs to mine before I pick it up. (required in my state, you are breaking a law if you even handle a pistol that is not on your permit.) By doing this, if something happens, it covers my azz.

This is just what I do. It is not something I am telling anyone else to do. How each of us handles local face to face transferes is up to them. The only reason I do it this way, with the exception of handguns, is to cover myself if something goes wrong. Generally, if somebody has something to hide, they will not want you to have a copy of their I.D. Just my $0.02, YMMV.
 
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