Self Defense Shooting

Discussion in 'Firearms in the Media' started by JTJ, May 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM.

  1. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Score good guys 1, bad guys 0.
     
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  2. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Good for him.

    I see now we are "defensive carry practitioners" according to the media.
    And of course we must have " licensed concealed carry firearms ".
    Everyone knows theres no other possible way to be armed.:rolleyes:
     
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  3. Nmwabbit

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    interesting contradictions in the 20 May newspeek media cited on an event almost a month ago against the earlier coverage May 4th, cited here:
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...g-lot-was-clear-case-of-self-defense-2020768/
    May 4th:
    • “(Kevin) Smith [perp's brother] said Joseph [perp] walked up to them, pulled his gun out, pointed it at the female and smiled as he began shooting at the male,” the report said. “Kevin stated Joseph was the first to fire his weapon.”
    • “As Joseph Smith got closer, he turned his firearm toward Baldwin,” the report said. “When Joseph Smith turned his pistol toward Baldwin, Baldwin drew his 9 mm semiautomatic pistol from a holster on his waist and stepped north, taking cover behind a trash can.”
    • Police said Joseph Smith fired seven times at Baldwin, and Baldwin fired 11 times at Smith.
    • Baldwin, who has a concealed weapon permit, then took off with the woman. The woman, while crying, attempted to call 911 and said “we were just in a” and hung up, police said. The pair then drove to the house of Baldwin’s father, Bobby Baldwin, chairman and CEO of Drew Las Vegas, a Strip resort set to open in 2022!
    • There they contacted an attorney, who called 911.
    so let's see here now...this earlier police version cited seems to differ a whole bunch from the yesterday's newspeek media accolade and doesn't seem to mention the shooter -- son of aristocratic Vegas Casino WHO LEFT THE SCENE OF A SHOOTING TO CALL DADDY'S FAMILY ATTORNEY!

    Wait shades of mafia controlled casinos...never mind...
     
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  4. Trunk Monkey

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    Probably the smartest thing he could have done
     
  5. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No need to deal with the shootee's friends, family, etc.
     
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  6. Nmwabbit

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    please tell everyone why anyone leaving the scene of a homicide -- they just committed by the way -- and failing to notify either LE & EMS is the smartest thing to do?

    j.q.citizen would/could be charged with other judicial issues -- destruction of evidence for starters, collaboration of the way things transpired; ad nauseam....all which would/could delay a viable investigation towards justified use of deadly force...

    Finally, ten rounds? in some locales could be adjudicated as excessive force!
     
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  7. Trunk Monkey

    Trunk Monkey Well-Known Member

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    See those are all questions that you let your lawyer deal with.
     
  8. Nmwabbit

    Nmwabbit Well-Known Member

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    call from your cell phone...eh -- what a concept isn't it?

    just leave a body bleeding out in a shopping center parking lot...ya!
     
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  9. Trunk Monkey

    Trunk Monkey Well-Known Member

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    Trolls gotta troll
     
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  10. Nmwabbit

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    nice to see when someone can not adequately justify their nonsensical commentary they find the need to engage in degrading & demeaning power and control bully tactics to deflect the issue of their inadequacies.

    i am truly disappointed you, as an august forum member, feel the need to engage in this type of elementary & childish behaviour as it discredits your otherwise commentary, past & present!
     
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  11. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There quite few shooting incidents that took more than 2 rounds. 14 rounds of 45 acp and it took a head shot to finish it. There was another high round count shooting posted on the forum. Some will drop with a 22lr and some take a canon. Whatever it takes to stop the attack is what you use. When your life is on the line there no Excessive Force.
     
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  12. freefall

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    Again with the power and control issues and you're SO Dissapointed!
    Are you a total feeb or a kindergarten teacher?
    Twerp.
     
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  13. Ghost1958

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    While whatever number of shots it takes is what it takes and has nothing to do with anything , the fact is the quickest way to turn a justified shoot into a murder charge is leave the scene and not call the situation in until you go home .
     
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  14. Nmwabbit

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    so pleasant to see you freefall haven't any type of substantive contribution to the conversation of this thread except to exhibit your normal demeaning behaviour towards others...

    tho i suppose you are doing your best under the circumstances...
     
  15. freefall

    freefall Well-Known Member

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    So,you're trying to control me by demeaning remarks. I'm So disappointed.
     
  16. sheriffjohn

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    Interesting story. Twitter comments on it are predictable on both sides of the issue. Only thing missing is the race card, alluded to but not played. Don't know Nevada law, but here the brother could be possibly be charged as well if they both intended to commit a crime and a death resulted. Glad the good guy came out on top (at least up to this point).
     
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  17. Trunk Monkey

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    I presume you can back that up with some references to actual cases where that happened?
     
  18. Nmwabbit

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    yet you yourself have made a similar outlandish statement without one iota of substantiation...hummm!
     
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  19. austin92

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    Alas! Nmwabit makes another post of random words to sound intelligent.
     
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