Self Defense Rounds

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by TheSadPanda, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    I'm posting this in the glock forum because its about a glock, and there hasnt been much action in the glock section lately :confused:

    Anyway, I have a glock 23 40 S&W, and I have no idea what kind of rounds would be best for home defense! I'd like to use a shotty for this, but I lack one at the moment. Specific Brands and bullet weights are very helpful. also WHY that one in particular would be good to know :p
     
  2. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    There are a number of factory loads available, Winchester Rangers, Gold Dots, DPX, PDX1, Federal HSTs, Hydra shocks, Buffalo bore has some good loads(I believe they use Gold Dot bullets). These are all well respected SD rounds and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. "The best" will vary with who you ask. I personally carry Federal HSTs in my 45. I picked it after reading about it and testing it in my own gun. In my own tests they expand to nearly 1", 0.90+ is very common and they retain their weight.

    Whatever bullet you decide to use make sure you test it in your pistol. I got 3 boxes of HSTs and tested them from slow fire, double taps and as fast as I could empty the mag. After I did that and didn't have a single problem I felt comfortable carrying them.
     

  3. StanDJ77

    StanDJ77 New Member

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    Ive got my heart set on a G23 or 22.I guess i have average size hands so, Im wondering which would feel better in my hand.
     
  4. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    With this caliber weight is more an issue than brand. There are basically 3 common weight ranges for 40sw defense ammo, and they all have their merits.

    180gr: Full weight load, 950-1000 fps, ballistics similar to 185gr 45acp
    155-165gr: Medium weight, 1100+ fps, most common civilian choice (I think)
    135-140gr: Lighter faster 1200+fps CorBon offerings, similar to 357sig, preferred by some PDs

    I don't shoot much 40sw myself. But the fact is it's a good defense round and all of these weight ranges will get the job done. Tinker around with them and see which you like best. Your gun (Glock) ought to have little trouble digesting any of it.

    Check out Ammo2Go. They have great selection and competitive prices. Hard to go wrong given their current prices for Rangers ($24.95) and Gold Dots ($27.95)...both in the 50rd boxes.
     
  5. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    With average sized hands the grip probably won't be a factor. If you even might want to carry this down the line, lean toward the 23. It's worth mentioning that G23 is in greater demand on the used market than the G22 from what I've seen.

    If you will not carry this gun, try both.
     
  6. hunter Joe

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    Go grab the Glock 22 Gen 3 and then grab the 22 Gen 4. The gen 4 has a shorter length of pull than the Gen 3 which has become very popular with people with smaller hands. The Gen 4 also comes with two extra back straps which also enhances the fit.

    I'm shooting a 22 Gen 3 but prefer the way the Gen 4 fits my over sized paws.
     
  7. canebrake

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    COR®BON/Glaser Safety Slug

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    The #12 shot is capped with a Blue ball. It produces immediate energy
    dispersal, creating abrupt stopping power. It is optimally designed for
    warmer climates and lighter clothing.

    The larger #6 shot is capped with a Silver ball. It will typically give an additional two inches
    soft tissue penetration, controlled energy release and target accuracy
    with a self-defense handgun. This load is designed for colder climates and
    heavier clothing.

    Caliber: 40 S&W
    Bullet Wt.: 115gr
    Velocity: 1400fps
    Energy: 501ftlbs
    Test Barrel Length: 4.0 Inches

    Home Defense. It's what it was made for!

    The Glaser Safety Slug uses shot compressed into a solid form, which produces immediate energy dispersal into the target, reducing the possibility of over penetration and creating abrupt stopping power. The numerous projectiles disperses outward generating an effective wound cavity. This load reduces the possibility of over penetration through the intended target. It provides for an added margin of safety. A missed round is much more likely to break up on an interior wall and dump its energy rather than proceeding unabated into an adjoining room and injuring an innocent bystander.
     
  8. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    Spittin- Thanks for the list of possibiblities. I'll definitely do some research on them and pick a few to try out.

    Cane- I will definitely add those to my list. I'd never even heard of them before, but they sound tramatic ;) Avoiding over penetration is a pretty big concern for me, so these could lend some peace of mind.

    Stan- I'd say see if theres anyway you could rent both at a range and try them out. If not, just got to a store and ask to see them both and see which ones fits you better and go from there! let us know what you choose :)
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    In my EDC the first two rounds are Silver ball. Besides the obvious reason they are also proven to penetrate auto windshields and deform much less than JHP's when passing through auto side glass. The remaining mag is loaded with Horandy TAP® FPD™.
     
  10. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Gold Dots have proven themselves solid performers.

    The store I worked in in the late '80's sold a lot of Glasers. We had some clients that used them on bad guys and they failed to perform as advertised. Maybe they have improved the formula since then, but I would never trust them again after listening to their stories.

    Another type of "safety slug" that did get some good results on a sponsored hog hunt were the MagSafe brand.
     
  11. ET1

    ET1 New Member

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    I use Winchester PDX1 in my Glocks. The 21sf sits by my bedside at night and the G27 is used as my CC gun. I am thankful that I can not tell you how effective they are on BGs, because I have never shot one. (And hope I never do) but I will shoot if I need to! That will be up to the BG, If they run I won't shoot them in the back. If they stand their ground I will have no choice.
     
  12. Bighead

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    Without trying to start a mudslinging contest, I would advise against Glaser Safety Slugs or other similar ammunition like MagSafe. Others may disagree, but when given a choice in handgun ammunition I will opt for the larger, heavier bullet.

    I tend to believe the most important factors for self defense handgun ammunition are permanent wound cavity and penetration. To quote the FBI, "the bullet must pass through large, blood bearing organs and be of sufficient diameter to promote rapid bleeding."

    I would recommend a quality self defense round in the 155-180 grain variety. Corbon DPX, Speer Gold Dot, and Winchester Ranger are all excellent choices. As previously mentioned, spend a little money to shoot at least one box of your chosen ammunition to make sure your firearm will feed it reliably.
     
  13. Leatherneck1775

    Leatherneck1775 New Member

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    I'm using the federal hydra shock, in my Glock 22 (40cal) and the wife is using the same in the 9mm (Ruger SR9c). the round is nice and does the job. NO crap on the miss. She gives me enough.....IMHO this round is really nice. not that I have shot alot of SD rounds so when you find one that you like let me know and if it is different I'll give it a try.

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  14. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Well said, Bighead. I agree completely.