Security shoots another teen

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Ranger-6, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Ranger-6

    Ranger-6 New Member

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    Security guards charged with impersonating a police officer following a bizarre chain of events Saturday night that resulted in the shooting death of an unarmed 18-year-old Ervin Jefferson. The mother of the dead teen insisted that she witnessed her son being run over by one of the guards after he had been shot.

    http://www.askandrenow.com/?p=1533
     
  2. Gallows

    Gallows New Member

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    That is one screwed up situation and that story didn't make a lot of sense. Did the guards run him over or the driver of the suspicious car that they were initially investigating?
     

  3. vincent

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  4. gollygee

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    I don't trust the media's reporting anymore if it involves a gun. A good example is the Florida case. MSNBC initiated a story which was slanted to convict the neighborhood watchman. Details are coming out now that would appear to exonerate him. The investigation is still going on, but regardless of how that turns out, that initial story has caused some people to try, convict & sentence him & they'll not change their mind for any reason.
     
  5. Rentacop

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    Friends,

    The media have incited racial tensions with inaccurate, one-sided, distorted and even fabricated coverage of the Zimmerman case. Let us all refrain from the type of threatening behavior we've seen from those publishing addresses for Zimmerman or calling for his murder and even putting a bounty on his head .

    Let's also condemn any racist anti-black postings on the Web .

    With that plea for civility in mind, I'd like to examine what the media said and what was left out .



    1) Media reports : " ...wants Zimmerman arrested . "

    What the media didn't say : A grand jury was looking into this matter ; the case was not dropped, and Zimmerman had been handcuffed and transported to the police station on the night in question . That fits the definition of 'arrested' . No mention was made of Zimmerman's past employment as a security guard ( or any training ) or his having a valid concealed carry permit . No mention was made of the witnesses even existing .



    2) Media : " Got out of his SUV and followed...despite police telling him not to . "

    What the media didn't say : It appears from the 911 recording that Zimmerman was already out of his vehicle and following Martin when the police operator asked, " are you following him ? " and being told " Yes ", said, " You don't need to do that. " It appears from the recording that Zimmerman stopped following immediately, offering no argument to the police operator. This would support Zimmerman's account of events .

    3) Media : " Pictures ".

    What the media didn't say : The picture of Martin depicts him when he was about 12 years old, not 17 and was provided by his father . It makes him look smaller than his 6'3" height at the time of his death . One would have trouble imagining such a small 17-year-old assaulting a full-grown man, which is what Zimmerman says happened .

    The picture of Zimmerman is a 5-year-old police mug shot of him in an orange prison jumpsuit .



    4) NBC tampered with the 911 recording to alter Zimmerman's talk with police . See full accounts elsewhere .



    5) Media : " Zimmerman is a white hispanic ".

    What the media did not say : Up until this case, " white hispanic " did not exist. Draw your own conclusions as to why the media created a whole new race .

    No mention was made in the media of "presumed innocent until proven guilty", " probable cause ", " proof beyond a reasonable doubt " or other basic principles of American justice .



    6) No mention has been made on T.V. of the disadvantage Zimmerman is under due to the fact that his only sensible course of action right now is to remain silent. If he goes on T.V. to talk, he risks damaging his defense should he ever be tried . Any lawyer will advise his client not to say anything .

    Silence does not mean guilt .



    7) Media : " sworn affidavit ".What the media didn't say : Affidavits cannot be cross-examined and are normally inadmissable in court . The person who signed this one is remaining anonymous . These factors might affect how much weight people give the affidavit .



    There is no excuse for encouraging belief in collective racial guilt , the essence of racism . If Zimmerman committed any crime, it is the crime of one man and not the crime of all whites, all hispanics or even all 'white hispanics' .
     
  6. 7point62

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    Well said.
     
  7. Shade

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    Rentacop excellent recap.
     
  8. alsaqr

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    According to the US Bureau of Justice; 94 percent of murdered black folks in the US are killed by other blacks. You never see Jackson and Sharpton marching and raising hades when some black gang banger does a driveby and kills kids. Black lives are important to guys like Jackson and Sharpton only when they are taken by whites.
     
  9. Rugers9

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    I second that
     
  10. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Theivery.......

    So my guess would be It's O K to kill your own kind, as is with the case amongst muslims.......Man has been killing man since the beginning of time.....We will see if mans brain is smart enough to stop the killing... Me thinks that will only come with judgement day when the whole of the world will implode and man will no longer walk the earth.....;)
     
  11. Zamzow

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    Most crime is camitted by the black culture. Don't know why but it is. It's kinda sad really but that's there problem. It only makes them look horrible. Even our jails are majority black people. U think its safe to say that they r responsible for much of our crime in society today.
     
  12. Rentacop

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    For a scholorly examination of the culture of the black ghetto, read the book, Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell .
     
  13. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Depends on the crime, many blacks get caught. Whites commit crimes that are easier to hide, and they have more money to get out of it when they do get caught. Ex, tax crimes, fraud, skimming funds. Look at the criminal records of congress and politicians,oh wait, that's all been buried with the people that tried to burn them. I saw near me a cop that was trashed drunk, got pulled over twice in the same day. He's still a cop and did no jail time. What woulda happened if he was black?
     
  14. Zamzow

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    There r pleanty of black crimes that go without getting caught also. Unfortunately black crimes r more violent crimes. They tend to stick out a little more.
     
  15. dog2000tj

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    So the victim's family is claiming the guards did not shoot the victim and the guards are claiming they did shoot the victim? :confused:

    Armed security at an apartment complex? :confused: :eek:
     
  16. Zamzow

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    Come visit some of the apartment complexes here in modesto ca u won't be confused on why we have armed guards.
     
  17. JTJ

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    Since defending yourself is frowned upon in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, you have to hire armed guards just like the anti gun celebrities.
     
  18. Zamzow

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    Lol. Why did u spell California with a k?