Section 8 and gun ownership.

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by DerickVonD, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. DerickVonD

    DerickVonD New Member

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    I wasn't sure if I should make another thread for this is not, but I was wondering is there any laws that prevent you from owning a gun, if your on the list for section 8? I checked google, but there was no specific info.
     
  2. bearrwe

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    I think it depends on property and state rules and regs. I think ive read stories about some states having rules like, no drugs, no weapons etc.
     

  3. DerickVonD

    DerickVonD New Member

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    But it varies by state and isn't federal correct(what I mean is there aren't federal laws that prohibit things on section 8 housing)? Also say I'm on the list to be entitled to section 8, but I choose to live somewhere where there isn't section 8. I shouldn't need section 8 forever, just until I start working. And it's not going to show up I'm on section 8, when I go for a background check and I go to purchase guns, correct?
     
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  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    First, I THINK the proper term is Title 8 (for Federally subsidized housing)

    Section 8 was an old term for a military discharge on psychiatric grounds. :p

    IIRC, there WERE some projects that attempted to ban residents from possessing lawfully owned firearms, and the courts tossed that one big time. Sort of like telling you that you gave up your rights against self incrimination or freedom of religion if you lived there.

    However, the thing to do is READ THE LEASE.
     
  5. DerickVonD

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    Ah, but it won't prevent me from buying guns legally in any state, or getting the federal background check approved?
     
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  6. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    I do not have a problem with anyone having a weapon as long as legally do so! But I do think that anyone on Section 8 or one of the entitlement programs should be subject to random drug testing and if they fail well they are on there own. Anyone living on our tax money doesn't have or should not have money to buy drugs. Nor should it be permitted.;)

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  7. c3shooter

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    Derick- a MILITARY Section 8 would- that means you were "adjudged mentally incompetent". :D However, THAT term has not been used for ages.

    Living in subsidized housing does not prevent you from legally being able to buy a gun.

    Remember- Obama has been living in subsidized housing for 3 years now.....
     
  8. Yunus

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    Reading the lease is probably the most important thing you can do. However I am a landlord in MD and recently had to research renting to tenant on section 8. First it's illegal for a landlord to simply say they will not rent to you because you are receiving section 8 assistance, however it's very easy to legally deny a person who is section 8 and you will never win the fight. From all my research in Maryland (I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND DON'T PRETEND TO BE ONE) there is nothing that says section 8 housing can't have firearms or can't be denied firearms. The lease will be the determining factor. Unlike other renters however you might lose your ability to collect section 8 money if you violate terms of your lease so again the lease itself is the most important factor. I suggest talking with your potential landlord and asking the questions you want answered in a polite and easy going manner.


    If you live in MD and are a resident of MD, I think you need to really know the laws before potentially buying a gun in another state. I don't know if it's possible to do legally, it might be but I'm saying be careful. It may be more expensive to buy in MD and if it's a handgun or "assault weapon" it will take a waiting period but waiting 8 days is better than saving 8 days and getting busted for a technicality that costs you the ability to legally own a firearm for life.
     
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  9. DerickVonD

    DerickVonD New Member

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    Yeah I am only going to buy a shotgun in MD, I plan on moving to VA in 2 pr maybe 3 years, but I live with my grandmom and me having section or titlte 8 would help her with rent, my main concern was if I went to get the federal background check done or a state background check done, it would show I'm on section 8 and thus automatically disqualify me from even purchasing a gun. Plus I have to look at VA laws as well. I do not plan on buying guns out of state and I will wait until the move to VA to buy a handgun
     
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  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    when you purchase a firearm and fill out the 4473 form and they call in for the background check, all that is being checked is your criminal background. doesn't check to see if you get housing assistance. that would be up to the landlord and his lease agreement.

    check with an attorney and find out what your rights are in the state you live in. every state can have different landlord and tenant laws. now if your record is clear, you can purchase a firearm, but if the laws state a landlord can restrict who he rents to in regard to firearms, then that's another thing.
     
  11. woody63m

    woody63m New Member

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    I was thinking the same thing if the army says your crazy you proably dont have any bussiness buying a gun roflmao
     
  12. chuckusaret

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    I do believe you are showing your age when discussing the real definition of Sec. 8. :D A young fellow that works for me part time applied for Title 8 housing and the contract stipulated no guns.
     
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  13. DerickVonD

    DerickVonD New Member

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    Are there different contracts per state, or are you just talking about a lease?
     
  14. RichNH

    RichNH New Member Supporter

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    Just for clarification, Section 8 in this context is short for Section 8 of the Housing Act of 1937.

    Interesting question, as a landlord I hadn't given the idea any thought but I'll have to give it some consideration. While I'm not inclined to rule out possession of a gun for my tenant, I probably would want to know if my tenant was keeping firearms on the property. Maybe I'll add something to my leases going forward.
     
  15. Yunus

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    Mandating your tenants to inform you of firearms could be a double edged sword. It's nice that you know but you might be taking some liability for knowing as well.

    In Maryland after a recent court ruling if I know that my tenants have a pit bull I can potentially be held liable for injuries caused by the dog because Pit Bulls were recently declared "inherently dangerous" by a court. The ruling is expected to be overturned but for now...
     
  16. chuckusaret

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    Lease....In my area Title 8 is not what any landlord wants to hear.
     
  17. SSGSF

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    I am going to be rude, and get on my soap box . You can flame me after . Here you are asking about a gun to buy when you are either on title 8 or trying to get it. Instead of worrying about what gun to buy , why don't you find a job to help pay your grandmas rent . Instead of us that pay taxes to pay for it. Just so you can spend what is left over on your gun collection .

    Ok I am done now.
     
  18. DerickVonD

    DerickVonD New Member

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    College is not finished. It'll be another year or so and I am studying for PC Repair. I can not go to college and work too, I tried it, I can't do it(anxiety disorder). Trust me when I get a decent job, I want a house, a real house, not some ****ty apartment or townhome. I would rather finish college so I can get a better job, than quit college and have some deadend peanut paying job, such as working in fast food or retail.
     
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  19. Freedom_Eagle

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    Agreed..... Also I think the last thing someone should be doing living in section 8 or on any government assistant program is buying guns or ammo... i shouldnt have to even mention drugs as they're illegal anyway.... If you have money to buy a gun then your rent should be paid fridge filled and so on... just my 2 cents