Scout Scope?

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by TraderJack, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. TraderJack

    TraderJack New Member

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    I bought the Ruger Scout when they first came out, and I've been shooting it with open sights ever since because I do enjoy open sights, but primarily because -
    1.) I cannot find a scope that suits the rifle's appearance and function, -
    2.) I cannot find a scope that suits my eye, and -
    3.) I cannot find a scope that doesn't cost an arm and a leg!

    I would appreciate some assistance...

    I've looked at the Leupold FX-II Scout IER 2.5x28mm,
    the Weaver Classic K-Series Scout Rifle Scope 4x 28mm,
    and even the TRUGLO Triton Red Dot Sight Red, Green and Blue...


    Anybody have any personal experience I can draw upon?
    Maybe just an old favorite?
    Thanks...
    TJ
     
  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I set up a Mini 30 as a scout and used a pistol scope. Worked very well in 2.5X and kept the weight down. There are quite a few good pistol scopes out there so there is plenty of choice. Several companies make ler scopes specific to the scout format. Here are just a few.
    http://swfa.com/Burris-Scout-Scopes-C60.aspx
    http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-4x28-VX-II-Scout-Scope-P50858.aspx
    http://swfa.com/Weaver-2x28-Classic-Handgun-Scope-P2859.aspx
    http://swfa.com/Weaver-25-8x28-Classic-Handgun-Scope-P2857.aspx
     

  3. TraderJack

    TraderJack New Member

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    Thanks for the input JTJ...
    Yes, I have looked at those scopes... and several other pistol scopes.
    I think I've had 'scope overload' for a couple of years now!:(

    I think my biggest concern is aesthetics. I've tried fitting several to the rifle and as of yet, none of them 'look right' to my eye. I like the magnification of the Leupold FX II Scout, but I don't like the way the scope looks on the rifle. (- I know... picky, picky,picky... :p)

    But I keep getting the feeling like I'm putting fancy wheels and low profile tires on a F-150 work truck... They just don't look right...

    I've even considered painting the scope with a camo pattern to try and match the rifle's stock, but I just can't find what I see in 'my mind's eye', if you know what I mean?

    I guess of all the scopes I've tried the Burris AR-332 Prism Sight suits my eye the best.
    Do you have any experience with this model?
    Thanks,
    TJ
     
  4. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That looks interesting but the mount is for an AR which places it up higher than necessary. Can that scope or similar be found in a lower mount. One of the advantages of the scout is the low scope mount. I would also look for quick release rings.
     
  5. TraderJack

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    Yep... now you're starting to see my problem... I just can't find what I want...
    :(
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    thats the problem with the scout rifle concept. there just arent any good optics that have such a long eye relief and work well for long range shooting past 100ish yards or so.

    it tries to cobble a pistol scope into a screwy kind of precision optic role. thats why the idea has never gone much past a few gun rags promoting it and the occasional gun maker trying it out on the market. so far the ruger scout has done sorta ok selling but the buyers tend to end up just using regular scopes in a traditional role anyway.

    i dont know of any scope with a very long eye relief that works well for rifle use. dangerous game hunters all use 1-4x scopes in normal scope positions usually with QD mounts of some sort. the scout scope just doesnt work well for rifle shooting.
     
  7. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The scope and similar types are not LER. Eye relief is running about 3.5". Finding a lit reticle in a magnified pistol/LER scope is tough. NC Star makes one for $40 and you get what you pay for in this case although I slapped one on my Mini just to try out and it held up for at least a couple hundred rounds. I was looking at the Burris 2.75X scout scope when I sold the Mini.
     
  8. TraderJack

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    Thanks for your input guys...
    We have another gun show coming up on the 18-19-20th... I think I'll take the Scout and see if a Vendor can come up with a solution. My poor little mind is melting...
    All the best,
    TJ
     
  9. JTJ

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    Actually it surprised me how well the scout did work. I had no problem from a rest at 100 yards and it is very fast offhand. The weight is more forward and it seems to steady it up some. It was easier for me to hit a target off hand with the scout. It would work out well for short range work and probably accurate enough for reasonably longer shots from a rest which would be the norm anyway. It would have worked out well for the way I hunted. I will probably set up my Mini 14 the same way and am wondering if I can set up my BLR as a scout. I know the take down model can be.
     
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  10. TraderJack

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    Yep... The Burris 2.75X scout scope was on the original list JTJ...
    I dunno, I may have to go that way???

    And, I really would like to stay away from the 'illuminated dot' scopes. They're fine on ARs but the Scout needs something that works well at 400 yds...

    Like I said, I've looked at 1743 scopes...
    :eek: - Can you say 'scope overload'?

    Many thanks guys...
     
  11. TruggieTex

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    I can speak for the Leupold LER. Very clear, easy acquisition, and durable. Just not cheap!


    Fits nice on my M1A scout...
     

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  12. capnklump

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    Might I ask what exact model of Leupold that is? It looks to be fixed power, is it? Its a BEAUTIFUL rifle!! I love the camo stock! I just purchased a scout squad in the walnut stock that is at this very moment being shipped to my local FFL. I am BRIMMING with anticipation!!!
     
  13. TruggieTex

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    Thanks!
    I have been very pleased with the scope. Quick release base is handy, too.
     

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  14. capnklump

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    Ok so it is fixed. What would you consider the max effective range? Is it good for deer? How is the aquisition of targets? & lastly, I hope you dont mind me asking, how much did it set you back? Sorry for the MANY questions! LOL
     
  15. TruggieTex

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    Yes, fixed.
    Very easy acquisition!
    My eyesight allows a consistent 3" group of 10 rounds at 100yds. The .308 round is flat way past that.
    I believe I paid around $300 to my door.
    No problem with the questions.
     
  16. capnklump

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    I'm thinkin I may go with the Leupold VX II Variable Scout Scope 1.5-4 X 28. The reason is I'd like the option of having a little more magnification if I need to "reach out there".
     
  17. TruggieTex

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    I am confident you will enjoy the rifle/scope combination.
    I made several range trips prior to putting the scope on to align and use the iron.
    With quick release mount, able to use iron in a scope failure situation...with zombies.... ;)
     
  18. CardiacColt68

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    I have been researching the same thing. I am thinking of adding the XS rail made for the Ruger Scout, and then mounting a traditional 1-4 scope with it. That way there are many more options to choose from. You can put any scope you'd like with some quick release mounts, and remove the scope to use iron sights as you choose.
     
  19. sandog

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    Burris now has a 2-7x Scout scope that can be had with their BDC type reticle. The Leatherwood Hi Lux 2-7x Scout scope (with duplex reticle) is a great scope for the money, about $130 from Midway.I used Tactical solutions Q.D. rings (also from Midway, $45). They look identical to Warne Q.D. rings, but being aluminum are way lighter than the Warne's. I put the Leatherwood with the Tactical Solutions Q.D. rings on my GSR, as I wanted the option of more magnification for longer shooting, and the Q.D. rings in case I had to use the factory irons at some point. Both have held up great. I'm getting the Ultimak rail for my Mini at the end of the week, many advantages to have the forward mounted optic.
     
  20. capnklump

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    I'll have to check out the Burris. As for the Leatherwood Hi-Lux, I seen a couple of reviews on Youtube about the low light performance being less than favorable, & I need a scope with "decent" performance in that area because I plan to hunt deer with it.