Scope good or bad?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by jeepboy4life, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. jeepboy4life

    jeepboy4life New Member

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    I recently purchased a remington 700 ADL SS in .243, this rifle will mainly be used for coyotes, foxes, and some woodchucks. It came with a no name junk 3-9x40 which i new had to be replaced asap. After a couple days of digging around i came across a Simmons 8 point 3-9x40 that came on my muzzle loader when i bought it. my question is will this scope hold up on this rifle and be good mated together for multiple years. I want a scope to zero on this rifle and then not have to worry about needing to replace it. does anyone have experience with this scope?
     
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  3. chrishiggin29

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    I've not had any luck with Simmons scopes I've had to replace them within a year. Tasco , Bushnell are good scopes for the price
     
  4. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    I've never had good Luck with Simmons but I was always taught not to say anything if I couldn't say it tactfully. What we do know about Control is; He is new to the forum, He has no tact, and He sounds like a gun snob. People come here to learn not to be ridiculed. I'm sorry for his rudeness.

    Try the Simmons see how it does, It only costs a few rounds. I have several scopes that most gun snobs would call cheap, (which is only relative to the size of your wallet). One 700 Rem that shoots one ragged hole and has for 30 years without having the caps off the scope.
     
  5. shouldazagged

    shouldazagged New Member

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    I wish I could just say "April fool!" and lower the prevailing suspended BS quotient in here, but alas, I can't.

    Sorry you got carved there, young man, but your reply tells me you might want to work on thickening your skin a bit. For future reference, there are jerks on every forum, and replying in kind just makes them jerkier.

    I can't answer your scope question, but I'm glad you're here trying to learn.
     
  6. huffmanite

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    Actually, I've had pretty good luck with with maybe 4 Simmons scopes.....but mine are mostly the Pro-Hunter models and one 44 mag made while Meade owned Simmons. Bought one more of these Simmons 6-18x44 ProHunters from Natchez just a few weeks ago.

    FWIW, the 8 Point Simmons line was one of their more inexpensive line of scopes. I always bought only Simmons higher priced model scopes and I've no complaints about them.

    Basically, you are not improving the quality of your scope on the rifle by putting an 8 Point Simmons on it.
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    First, as in most things, you get what you pay for. It MAY be adequate for what you are using it for. Not everyone drives a Mercedes- some folks find a Ford meets their need. In general, Simmons is not a "top of the line" scope, but it also does not carry a "top of the line" price tag.

    However, if you search for Simmons 8 point reviews, there are several complaints about durability, the reticle coming loose and rotating, etc. It may work for you, may not, but would not expect too much.

    Second- If I want cutting remarks or replies, I can get those for free from relatives and bosses. Uncalled for, so knock it off. I only say that once.
     
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  8. nitestalker

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    I have used some low end scopes on military rifles. The Simmons and Tascos have both held up just fine. The low end rifle scopes of today are much improved over the bargain lines of the past.
     
  9. 762

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    if it can handle a muzzle loader, i bet it'll handle a .243
     
  10. Steel_Talon

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    The original Simmons ATEC line were very good scopes...

    That being said you should try your Simmons on your rifle. Once you get it zeroed do a box test on it to see if the POA changes.

    Box test = 1st shot on target. move reticle right 12 clicks fire shot
    Move reticle down 8 clicks fire shot
    Move reticle left 12 clicks fire shot
    Move reticle up 8 clicks fire shot. Your shot should be on your original point of aim or back to zero.

    Just make sure your rifle is nested in solid from the bench.

    **Your scope needs be mounted properly to your rifle
     
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  11. jeepboy4life

    jeepboy4life New Member

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    Thanks for the info guys, and I do have a pretty tuff skin, just had a bad day today and then seeing his response really PO'd me. Sorry for the rudeness and the vulgarity.
     
  12. Steel_Talon

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    ^ speaks of good character when a man stands and gives apology!
     
  13. kalboy26

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    My scope experience is a little limited as i tend to hold on to them. It seems to me though the quality scopes have a lot more clarity, weather resistance, and maybe a few other perks. My cheap scopes and expensive ones both shoot the same as far as accuracy goes though. I just can't use some is certain weather or light conditions. Hope that helps.
     
  14. JTJ

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    I have one of the old Whitetail Expeditions and they are good scopes as are the Whitetail Classics. I have broken a couple of the newer scopes. I have seen some higher power Classics on close out I believe at SWFA. They sent me an Atec as a replacement and it would not handle the recoil of a 308.
     
  15. Cattledog

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    Dam, I miss all the fun. Vulgarity? deleted posts? These are the days of firear...ah. nevermind.

    Simmons is one of "those" brands in the 50/50 category as far as Im concerned. It could last 5 rounds from that rifle or 50. 500? yeeeah, I dunno. maybe. outlive your rifle? I wouldnt put money on it.

    I say mount it, shoot some and see what happens. I've seen and owned plenty of "low end" scopes that kept on zero waaaay past their reputations. LOoking forward to a range report on this one. :D
     
  16. godale

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    i have a aetec on my stevens 200 about 100 rounds through it. it was used too and bought a year ago
     
  17. godale

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    i forgot its a 270 stevens my bad
     
  18. jeepboy4life

    jeepboy4life New Member

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    I will do a range report on my setup but its probably about 4-5 weeks away. I'm stuck at college and they tell me I can't have my rifles here :'(
     
  19. jeepboy4life

    jeepboy4life New Member

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    Thank you, I was taught that when you make a mistake you stand up and take responsibility for it, it saddens me that the majority of my generation does not share these simple ideals.
     
  20. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Been there....... Wish I had the balls to admit I was wrong when I got called on it.
     
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