School me on M1A's

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Dr. Marneaus, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. Dr. Marneaus

    Dr. Marneaus New Member

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    Hello Folks!

    After a long and drawn out conversation with my father, who is more or less dead set on getting me a graduation present, He suggested a new gun, because it's something I'll have forever, will always enjoy, and will have sentimental value attached to it. I suggested nothing, just their presence at graduation would be enough (I only get to see them once or twice a year), but he wont have that...

    I guess I can live with that...haha.

    Anyway, an M1A has always been on the top of my list, but I realize I know nothing about them. I had a mini-14, and love the reliability/simplicity of the action, so, M1A seems good to me.

    I'd love to have something capable of some long range shooting, which is where I'm a little unsure of what model would be best.

    I've heard people raving about the Scout Squad, perfect balance between the little bitty Socoms and the full size Standard or Loaded models.

    What things do i need to consider? What should I look for? I'm not even sure of pricing. I've seen Socoms for about 1500 locally I think.

    As I said, school me! I don't know enough about em, so teach me!!!!

    Pics of any you own are greatly appreciated!
     
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  2. M14sRock

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    Check out LRB Arms. They use USGI parts or a new forged equivalent.

    Or check out Smith Enterprise.

    Springfield Armory makes excellent rifles but have been using cast parts for many years.

    The M14/M1A features the best sights ever used on a battle rifle, excellent ergonomics, excellent trigger, AK reliability, durability matched by few, and are intended for riflemen.

    My LRB M25 will shoot 5/8" or better groups at 100.

    Some of mine are pictured in other threads on here somewhere.

    If you want a semi auto .308/7.62x51 rifle, you won't regret an M14. There is no better .308/7.62x51 battle rifle.
     

  3. Dr. Marneaus

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    I know I wont regret one! haha.

    Are any of the non-springfields readily available at gun stores? I prefer to support my local shops, and There are plenty for me to run around to, and I have a feeling what I choose will be largely based upon what is available, in stock.

    edit: noticed the LRB arms are about 2500 bucks starting......well...that aint gonna happen
     
  4. Wambli

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    SA has been using cast parts for years and they have had no isues with them. I have an SA and many of my friends do to including sevaral that bet their bacon on them. None has failed.

    I have a SA "Loaded" and I can bust 16oz plastic water bottles with it at 100 yards (open sights) with boring regularity. With a scope the rifle will reach out as far as you'll ever need it too.

    Prices on them are not getting any cheaper so jump on the bandwagon as early as you can. You won't ever regret getting an M1A.
     
  5. Dr. Marneaus

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    Opinions on the different models of springers?

    Advantages, disadvantages?

    I dont think I could go any higher price wise, than the Loaded, probably be between the Standard and the Scout Squad, in all honesty.

    Preferences?
     
  6. CA357

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    FWIW, I had an M1A Scout Squad and loved it. If you want more accuracy at distance, go with the standard/longer barrel, maybe with the Nat'l Match barrel. If you really want a tack driver, the Whitefeather is the way to go. Of course the prices go up as well.
     
  7. KingTiger

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    Here's my Polytech M14S, it has a forged receiver. I bought it new many years ago and just recently fired it, it has less than 100 rounds thru it so no head space issues yet. I refinished the stock, put a SEI USCG muzzle brake and NM front site on it.

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  8. mag318

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    I've had several Springfield M1As over the years and they were all great rifles. I do have a preference for the older ones with all USGI parts which come up for sale periodically. The newer current production M1As are still fine rifles and you can't go wrong with one.
     

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  9. Dr. Marneaus

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    Goregrous rifles...I hope hope hope I can get my hands on one.

    Is there any big accuracy differences between the longer and shorter versions?
     
  10. M14sRock

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    Bbl length affects velocity more than accuracy. Sight radius affects accuracy.

    The Loaded Model has a medium weight bbl, so if you plan to carry it a lot that may be a factor. But the Loaded models tend to shoot REALLY well (but most M14's do).

    When you buy one, get a spare USGI extractor. M14 extractors are getting spendy, but M1 Garand extractors work fine in M14's. You may also want to track down a spare USGI hammer (once again an M1 Garand hammer will work). They are both super easy to swap out.
     
  11. JonM

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    my opinion they are big huge heavy rifles which were created as a sort of cross between the BAR and M1 Garand from WW2. it did niether the role of the BAR well or that of the garand well. honestly it did nothing really well during its service time. it has however found a niche with the competition circuit when it comes to long range rifle shooting. this lead to civilian acceptance to a short degree which continues today.

    if your getting it cuz ya like em excellent. if your getting it cuz other people like em prolly a not a good idea. since your asking on a forum what others opinions of em are it seems to me you havent made your mind up and you really need to learn more about em.

    i used to have one and sold it. i found it just was too heavy and clumsy of a rifle for the round it fired. i know it is heresy but im not a M1A/M14 fan.
     
  12. bigbad-ratman

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    I love my SA M1A. What others see as "huge and heavy," I see as solid and comfy. Just a case of differing opinions. Have you actually shot one before? If you haven't handled and shot one I strongly suggest you do here pretty soon. In this day and age where it seems like everything is getting lighter and smaller, an M1A is def a different feel than most folks are used to.
     
  13. Silvertip 44

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    I have three SA M1As in my safe. Two are loaded and one is a standard. All three have been fully accurized and shoot extremely tight groups less than 1/2 MOA at 100 yds.
    I used one of them for deer hunting this past season and it was an excellent performer. Took a 6 pt buck with it and also a doe with head shot at about 150 yds.
    I am partial to the M1A since the weapon i trained with in the 60's was the M14. They are fantastic rifles and frankly I don't see how anyone could say different. It is a rifle your life can depend upon because it will get the job done with ease. Why else would the army be bringing M14s out of moth balls and putting them back into service?
    I vote go for it.
     

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  14. Dr. Marneaus

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    I've handled one on several occasions, but never fired one. A good friend of mine owns one.

    I'm over 5.56 or .223, and I dont like AR's all that much. I've always loved the feel and looks of the M1A, and have heard how much people love them as well, plus...ya cant go wrong with 7.62

    Just looking for info on the different models, as I said, not whether or not I should get one. Mainly looking for advantages/disadvantages in the different styles.

    I'm a big guy, tall with long arms and whatnot, so big rifles don't bother me.
     
  15. CA357

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    The only reason I sold my SA Scout Squad was because of a financial crunch. If I can ever get ahead enough, I will buy another in a heartbeat.

    For now, I make do with its Daddy, a 1943 Springfield M1 Garand. ;)
     
  16. Silvertip 44

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    And CA357 there ain't nothin' wrong with that 1943 Springfield M1 Garand either. I have a few M1s and love them all too. They along with the M1A will get the job done when all else fails.
    I must say though that I believe the M1A/M14 to be the finest rifle I have ever been acquainted with.
    It is unfortunate that General Patton didn't live long enough to meet the '14.
    Mcnamara probably would have had some competition.
     
  17. Wambli

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    How can anyone not love an M1A :D
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  18. Silvertip 44

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    That's right Wambli, just one touch and an informal introduction then the fever starts. The M1A fever is as contagious as the Garand fever. One turns into two and then so on.
     
  19. Mud4Brains

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    So I guess this isn't the right thread to look for a non-biased comparison between the M1A and the AR-10? HaHaHaHaHa!

    I bought a stripped AR-15 lower just because I thought the current administration would ban them, but I'm not in a real hurry to build it because I think it's a useless round for close in defense and long range.

    I'm of the opinion that the .308 is far superior to the .223. That got me to thinking about scrapping the AR-15 idea and building a AR-10. I've already got my Rem700VTR for my EOW (End of the World) Long Range gun...figured I'd build a .308 AR for my EOW Close-In gun and only have to scrounge around for one bullet type.

    Then I eventually got into the idea of a M1A and that's where I'm at now. If I already have long range covered with the 700, it seems that the AR would be the logical choice because it's lighter, shorter, and there's a billion accessories to customize it with.................................buuuuuuuuuuuuuut, it's NOT an M1A.

    An AR-10 is like the newer sleeker youngster that just got out of college and forced the more qualified, but higher priced old guy to be downsized. I myself am a youngster of sorts (32) but my wisdom is older than my years, and if it's my business, I'll usually take the loyal reliable more expensive sure thing any day over something that's new and looks good.

    So what now? lol.
     
  20. bigbad-ratman

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    you can always give the old guy an office position so he stays with the team. course, dont know how that would equate to an M1A...