Scary Colt 1903

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by herp_man2003, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. herp_man2003

    herp_man2003 New Member

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    Ok I have had this for a while and am just now getting around to fixing it. I have a Colt 1903 Pocket hammerless in .32 acp. When I went to fire this for the first time I pulled the slide back and released it to chamber a round, and it fired the round when I released the slide. Pretty scary. I tried to fire the next round and it would not fire the trigger had to reset when the first round fired. I removed the round from the chamber and when i looked at the primer it had a "dimple" in it where the fireing pin had hit it. Just wondering if anybody has an idea of whats wrong with it. The sear dose have some wear on it but it dosent seem like its alot. past that I dont have a clue. Any help on this would be great, and also maybe a suggestion on were to find parts would be great to. I wanted to post some pics of the hammer and sear and other parts but they are all to big to post so if you would like to see them send me an email and I will email them to you. Thanks Anthony
     
  2. herp_man2003

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    Pics

    I have the pic of the hammer and the sear in my profile
     

  3. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    Did you try it with another round?
     
  4. herp_man2003

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    ya this happend a couple of times. If I chambered a round and fired it the action would cycle and chamber the next round but it would not fire it. It felt to me when i would try and fire the next round that the hammer had not reset. when i removed the round that was in the chamber the primer was dimpled where the the fireing pin had struck it. Im not shure why the hammer was not reset after it was fired the only thing i could think of was the sear was not working right. Im working of tracking me down a new sear but any other sugjestions would be nice. thanks Anthony
     
  5. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I've had the same problem with my wife's Hipoint. It turned out to be bad ammo. When I ran fresh ammo through it, it fired fine.
     
  6. herp_man2003

    herp_man2003 New Member

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    the ammo that I shot came from two different boxes of ammo and they were both winchester white box stuff so i dont think that is the problem but thank you for the advice Anthony
     
  7. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    The only other thing that I can advise is to polish the sear and hammer. Keep 'em well oiled in the future.
     
  8. herp_man2003

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    Anybody have any other ideas on this im still waiting on some parts but has any one else had this problem with the colts just wondering Thanks Anthony
     
  9. cksfarms

    cksfarms New Member

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    I have a few Colt 1903s type I,II,III & IV plus a couple of extras just cause. I even have a type IV that's never been fired beautiful piece. I've not had the problem you have but...
    The sear or safety disconnect is not catching the hammer when the slide is pulled to the rear. The hammer is following the slide. Parts worn or maybe the leaf spring is broke worn out. Take the slide off. while pushing the safety (disconnect) down pull the hammer back and see if it locks back. Probably won't. I'm kind of leaning towards the leaf spring not pushing the disconnect into place. Could be wrong. I was once and it cost me 18 years but then she left me. Lifes been great ever since.
    Don't do any testing with it loaded. It's possible to have 2 or more rounds go off. one time I was working on my ar and lost a small spring in the trigger group. Yep it went auto. 3-4 and more round bursts even after I took my finger off the trigger. One small sping that helped engage the sear.
     
  10. herp_man2003

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    Thanks for the info. Im glad that you said the sear and the safety disconnect because that is kind of what i was thinking and thats the parts that i have on order. my 1903 is a type two it was made in 1909 i did a little checking and found that out. I was thinking about refinishing it but im not sure there would it be a major crime to do that? I have a feeling that it only has value as a shooter. I payed 350 for it a few years ago and it dose have a holster with it but i dont belive that its custom as the colt was made in 1909 and the holster was made in 1914 but thank you for the info and i will let you know how it goes when i get the parts in the mail. Thanks Anthony
     
  11. herp_man2003

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    Got My Parts

    Well I got my parts im very very dissapointed with them i had my gun store order the parts for me so im gonna go and get the name of the company and sent them a letter. when i got the safety disconnect i had to grind down part of it because there was a peice that dident belong on the part and the sear for it was coverd in some kind of grime that i had to clean off and polish it up a little bit. wish i would have taken a pic of the disconnect. and after all of this i think that matt g may be right about the ammo. i got it put back together and i was working the slide by had with out ammo. and every few pulls of the slide and the hammer would not hold. i beleive that thoughts were the times that i dident quite get the slide all the way back and the hammer was not catching the sear. I will find out when i get to take it out and shoot it right now were haveing a bit of a blizzard so ill let you guys know how it go's. Im gonna get a different brand of ammo and see what happens with the both of them. Thanks guys for all the help and ill update you all when i get to shoot it. Anthony
     
  12. ei8ht

    ei8ht New Member

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    Anthony how did you make out with your Colt?
    I collect the 1903's and 1908's.
    thanks
    Jim
     
  13. herp_man2003

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    Im still waiting on parts i should have them in by the middle of next week so i will find out if the spring was my problem if its not i may just sell it but it dunno ill post a reply when i get my parts and get to test it out thanks Anthony
     
  14. roys101

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    Hi. Does anyone have tips for a suppressor bbl for the 1903 .32? Are there any extended, threaded bbls out there, or must one make his own? Looks to me like I could bore-out and tap the muzzle, then make a male-to-male adapter. Thanks.
     
  15. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Roys101, Welcome to the forum. We have an area called "Introductions". Stop by and say "Hi".

    Now, why would you consider ruining such a fine pistol in its old age?
    Barrels already threaded for a suppressor? I don't think you will find one.

    And I would suggest that you get the okay from BATF for the suppressor before even a trial fit. They monitor this site, and can get the info needed to track you down.

    Boring the barrel is not a good idea. There is a crown on the barrel and removing the crown will have a detrimental affect on accuracy. It is not a good idea to install a suppressor and then have the bullets yaw and destroy the inside of the suppressor. Plus the remaining material will not be strong enough to support a suppressor if you bore out and tap.

    My suggestions? Sell the gun, buy one with a threaded barrel, get the okay from the BATF for a suppressor, and have fun once you are legal.
     
  16. drboompa

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    Just picking up with Matt g As a Hi-Point owner on that forum there is a lot of negative chatter about Winchester white box ammo. You might try federal or another brand.


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