Say I have no gun oil... what do I do.

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by corrinavatan, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. corrinavatan

    corrinavatan New Member

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    So, a friend and I were discussing a hypothetical class 4 zombie outbreak (I swear, the Zombie Survival Guide is hilarious), and we came to the realization that, eventually, if you survived enough, you would run out of gun oil.

    Now, my friend swears up and down that you can use olive or canola oil in firearms and it would work just as well as gun oil for cleaning and preservation purposes.

    I think he's full of it, but I can't put my finger on why.

    So, I decided to post here and see: if you couldn't get any Hobbe's or Remington gun oil (by which I mean "a product specifically designed as an oil for guns), what would you/could you use, and would it be safe?
     
  2. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    5W-30 mobil one synthetic motor oil works great---and in a pinch I think
    automatic transmission fluid would be fine too. Darned near anything is
    better than nothing. Heck---render out a couple of zombies.
     

  3. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Cooking oil??? Only if a zombie is banging on the door and the bolt is seized. Vegetable oil does not have the heat tolerence need to retain viscosity, meaning it will gum up very quickly and cause more harm than good. Any auto or machine oil will do the job, a gallon will last decades so the chances of running out are slim. In the wastelands you will have to loot from to survive every garage and crankcase is a bonanza.
     
  4. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    motor oil, transmission fluid, etc.

    Any kind of petroleum based lubricant would work.
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    tons of motor oil all over in abandoned buildings shops garages cars trucks etc.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Motor oil, ATF, cooking oil. Castor oil (from castor beans- keep a few growing in the back 40- repels moles, can be used as motor oil) However, for my muzzleloaders, I can use lard or beef tallow quite well, thank'ee. :p
     
  7. Ubergopher

    Ubergopher New Member

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    I'd use what I use for everything, the blood of my enemies.
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Gopher, that will make carbon steel rust- salt content, y'know.

    However, a fatty opponent..........:p
     
  9. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    Quoted for truth. It's the best stuff I've used. I don't even bother with gun oil anymore. A quart will last quite a while.
     
  10. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    No Gun oil ?

    If it gets that bad You won't need it. But, If your willing just Google animal fats as a lubricant. Read the different techniques of how to make your own. And as for a cleaning solvent Google How to make Kerosene. All of which is very simple. Lets all Hope it doesn't come to this, but the know how is worth it.:)
     
  11. Dillinger

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    The Zombie Survival Guide is awesome. The follow up, World War Z is a great read as well.

    I think your friend is slightly misinformed, or perhaps his terminology is just off.

    You need some sort of solvent for cleaning purposes, the oil is to keep them clean and from rusting.

    As such, you can clean most parts with simple soap and water, applied with a little elbow grease. The trick is that you have to get them dry and then lubed with any of the products listed above of a long term lubricant like Fluid Film to keep them from rusting and seizing up.

    Anything you could find or salvage from a machine shop or garage would be the first choice. Cooking oils, as stated, just don't have the necessary chemical application in their composition for what you are asking them to do.

    In the event you had a piece that you wanted to preserve, store away, and were able to clean it. Use of Canola or Peanut oil, if applied lightly before placing the weapon in some sort of water proof bag ( large ziploc ) probably would not do any harm.

    But for running and gunning of a level 4 zombie attack, I would stick with the thick stuff found in motor vehicles everywhere. ;)

    JD
     
  12. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    mobile 1 nothing better but grease in my eyes.
     
  13. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    You enjoy grease in your eyes? :confused:
     
  14. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    I use Mobil 1 Synthetic for my AR-15. I'm not sure why I haven't been for my handguns. I love Hoppe's oil, but as soon as I'm out, I'll probably stick with the Mobil 1. 2 oz. bottle versus a quart at almost the same price. You can't go wrong!
     
  15. corrinavatan

    corrinavatan New Member

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    Interesting. I haven't heard of using motor oil for guns, but looking at what motor oil IS, it makes sense.

    Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks using olive oil on a gun is wonky, and would damage the gun.
     
  16. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Cooking oil isn't a good option, IMO. It will cook off and burn unlike Mobil1 and other synthetic motor oils.

    Go buy a couple quarts of 5w-30 Mobil1 and that should last you at least a week or two. ;-)
     
  17. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Every abandoned vehicle has a dipstick under the hood. They make great applicators.
     
  18. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    On the other hand, stir some greens with your gun and you have a delicious salad! :)
     
  19. Ruzai

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    Petroleum based anything with a gun is a bad idea. Petroleum based stuff tends to gum up the works in the hot weather and coagulate in the cold unlike synthetic oils. Not to mention that petrol based oils attract particulates like a magnet, even more so than synthetic, why do you think synthetic lasts so long? ;)
    I use Rem Oil and will resort to Hoppes #9 if I have caked on crud to desolve but I'm moving to Tetra grease for all my friction surface and using the Rem Oil for its protective values until I can find something better.

    When the democrat zombies are beating on your door its a little too late to worry about gun oil, run it dry until you can find the nearest oil pan, dip stick, or if you're lucky you can raid an AutoZone or WalMart that still has some, after all Oil is the last thing people are thinking about in a crisis.