Savage .308 Sell or keep?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by EMan2008, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. EMan2008

    EMan2008 New Member

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    I currently have a savage axis .308 stainless steel with a redfield 4 to 12 zoom scope. I haven't had a whole lot of shooting experience with rifles, shotguns are my history but i want to extend to long distance target shooting and hunting. I am wondering if this setup is really something i can work with. I am also concerned about articles i have read... it is said that it is a throw away gun? And i don't know how to properly zero a scope either, i tried but i failed.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the Savage Axis is not a throw-away gun by any means and they are dang accurate rifles. very well made and decently priced. as far as long distance target rifle for a beginning rifle shooter, it's a good one to start with to learn how to shoot as long as you realize it's not a 1000 yard rifle or cartridge! but IMO, it's a good rifle to learn the basics and is pretty accurate if you take time to find ammo that works well in it and learn to do your part. as a hunting rifle, it's a very good one to hunt with.

    i know how to zero a scope, but i would suck at being able to explain it to you and would more than likely have you more confused than you are already!
     

  3. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Axe, tell me why 308 isn't a 1000 yard cartridge?


    The axis is OK. You can uprgade it. New bbl, trigger, stock, scope. Now it's a 1000 yard gun.
     
  4. EMan2008

    EMan2008 New Member

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    I was told it couldn't be upgraded with a new trigger i researched that, and whats a bbl? Is my redfield scope subpar?
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    this may sound confusing, so bear with me here. it is and it isn't. in the hands of a very talented shooter, yes the 308 can be a 1000 yard cartridge. but i also believe there are better choices for shooting that long a distance. also it takes premium ammo or some very good reloads that are dialed in to the rifle being used. history has shown that the 308 can be used very well at 1000 yards, but these were also very talented shooters who knew ballistics of the rifles they were shooting.

    for a beginner learning and shooting, the 308 is a good cartridge to learn with because of the mild recoil and the cheaper cost to shoot than other cartridges, which can translate into more practicing their shooting.

    upgrading the Axis, yes it could end up being a 1000 yard rifle with a talented shooter behind the trigger.
     
  6. EMan2008

    EMan2008 New Member

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    I don't see how it can be upgraded i did a lot of research and found that there isnt anything to upgrade on this rifle
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just about any firearm can be upgraded if one has a very good gunsmith and plenty of money.
     
  8. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Your axis has the savage barrel nut. This makes upgrading the barrel very affordable, and quick.

    Any trigger can be stoned, or replaced. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/138213/timney-trigger-savage-edge-axis-steel-black

    Your scope is not good enough for long range. Period. My long range scope runs about $1100, and that's a cheap one.




    As it sits, you've got a good 4-500 yard hunting rifle. OR, a gun that needs about $14-1600 put into it for long range.
     
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  9. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    I would enjoy the axis just as it is now. It will make a great hunting rifle for many years to come. The 308 is a long distance cartridge. One of the longest sniper kills on record was made with a 308. Ethical big game hunting is a 300 yard proposition. It's not that a 308 can't make clean kills at longer distances. Recovering game shot at longer distances is very difficult.

    Practice with a 22 or even a quality pellet rifle applies to shooting bore rifles. If you can hold a 22 steady enough to hit a bottle cap at 40 yards, you can make some long shots with the axis.
     
  10. EMan2008

    EMan2008 New Member

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    I certainly can i have one of those rotating spoon target things in sets if 3 and i peg those with 22s all day long, i hit little varmints with that 22 for years. I just cant seem to keep er steady enough while looking through the scope
     
  11. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am assuming you do not have a mechanical bore sighter. Start out by bore sighting the scope. Make sure the scope base and rings are properly tightened. I like to use Blue Loctite on the base screws. Remove the bolt and place the rifle on a solid rest pointed in a safe direction. You will need to find an object like a tree and pick a spot. Put up a pie plate to sight on if necessary. Align the bore of the rifle with your target spot by looking through the barrel. Once it is aligned adjust the scope cross hairs to the spot. It is now bore sighted.
    If you can set up a target at 25 yards start there. See if you are on paper. If not, go back to bore sighting. Once you are on paper and centered on your target you can move out to 100 yards. I prefer to fire a group aiming at the same point each time then adjust the scope so the center of the group is in the center of the target.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    longest confirmed sniper shots have been done with the 50BMG cartridge in various rifles.

    longest confirmed shot with the 308 was by an American Army sniper @ 1367 yrds in 2005 in the Iraqi war.

    longest confirmed shot with the 338LM was by an UK sniper @2707 yrds in 2009 in the Afghanistan war.

    longest confirmed shot with the 50BMG was by an Australian sniper @ 3079 yrds in 2012 in the Afghanistan war.

    Carlos Hathcock set the standard with the 50BMG @ 2500 yrds in 1967 in the Vietnam war. that record stood until 2002 when a Canadian sniper set the new record at 2526 yrds in the Afghanistan war.