Savage 10 Precision vs Remmington M700

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by crazyfomo, Jan 3, 2012.

  1. crazyfomo

    crazyfomo New Member

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    I'm new to the forum and just starting my research into rifles. I've got a couple months or more until I get my permit but I figured I should start looking now. I'm primarily going to be target shooting, no hunting or competition. Just enjoy shooting at the range and have always wanted to shoot a bolt action at like 500m or farther eventually. I realize I'll be starting in the 100-200m distance but eventually would like to go farther.



    I went to the local shop and held a Savage 10 precision(.308win) I liked how it felt, not a fan of the digital camo but anyway. I also just because I'm into historical guns/war weapons I'm interested in a Remmington M700(.308win), don't know what variation though. Simply because that's what they've been using since what like 67? Just the coolnest factor to me and plus I've heard there an exilant weapon.



    Wanted to know your guys take, I'm not made of money so I'm trying to keep it as cheap as possible without getting crap. So between the Savage 10 precision(.308win) and some variation of the M700(.308win). Can use all the opinions honestly, Im new and could use some advise.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    crazy, i can say this either one would be a real nice rifle and accurate. from my personal preference, i like the remington M700 better than the savage's because of the way they fit me. but i have owned and shot many savages, they are very good rifles and probably as good as the remingtons as far as function and accuracy. both the remington and the savages are proven performers and would serve you well for your intended purpose. the advantage a little also goes to the remington in aftermarket support, but the savages are getting more in aftermarket support as time passes, because they are selling well enough that they warrant it now. price is always an issue. and if this is your case, then new, the savages might be just a little less than the remingtons configured the same way. check your local gun store and pawn shops, as some great deal can be gotten if you look around for something used. good luck, and the 308 is an excellent choice in caliber.
     

  3. crazyfomo

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    Ok good to hear but I've also heard rumor/reports that Remmington has had trouble with there triggers with misfiring. I've done some research that says in most of those cases the guns couldn't recreate the misfire again. Also that some of those guns where tuned beyond authorized limits. Even if this trigger malfunction is BS still makes me nervous in the back of my mind.

    Also any suggestions for Scopes? I know they can get crazy expensive.
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    crazy, no need for concern in regard to the remington triggers, as it is one of those urban myths! only ones that ever had any problems that could be duplicated were the ones done by backyard gunsmiths who didn't do them properly in the first place. i own several remington M700's, and have adjusted the triggers for lighter pull, but also do a very thorough safety check afterwards. i feel very safe and trust my remington's triggers. if i couldn't get them as low as i wanted and for it to be safe, then i would seriously look at getting an aftermarket trigger that would go down as low as i wanted. not cheap, but this is the only way sometimes to be safe. there are also aftermarket triggers for the savages too. while i have replaced the OEM triggers on remingtons, i have not done one on a savage, so i can't advise on how difficult they are to replace. like i said either rifle is a very good choice in the caliber that you want.
     
  5. crazyfomo

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    Ok Thanks man! If adjusting the trigger isn't to hard I'd do it, if it is I'd get it professionally done.
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    it isn't hard to do, but if you have never done it, then my advice would be to let a competent gunsmith do it. i learned how many years ago from a friend of mine who use to be a gunsmith. he also drilled into my head about safety and how do them properly. i would never suggest or recommend soneone doing their own trigger work unless they had the experiance to do so safely. i did several of my rifles years ago under his watchful eye and learned how to do them safely. under no circumstances would i do anyone elses trigger for any amount of money. my rifles are mine and mine alone and what i do to them is my business and responsibility. i will also preach this to the rafters, if you have never done one, then don't touch it, dont adjust it, just leave it alone, because if not, you could end up with a rifle, that could hurt or kill someone,and i can't stress that enough.

    scopes are easy, spend the most money you can on a good quality scope. there are many good choices out there, Nikon, Swift, Leupold, Vortex, and ect.. the best way is to look through them and see which one suits your needs the best. as you say the rifle will mainly be used for target shooting, look at the higher magnificaton scopes, like a 3-10 or 4-12 or even a 4-16 power scope. or even a 6-18 power might be to your liking. scope optics have gotten much better in the last few years even on lower cost scopes.
     
  7. jpattersonnh

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    Historic you say. If you want true historic, look at Gibbs M1903's. Pretty out standing firearms, that are basicly new w/ original receivers. The 700 has never really floated my boat. I'm a Mauser guy. The Winchester pre '64 70 would be a perfect compromise. Come to think of it, it was used in Vietnam.
    It improved on the '98 Mauser action. The '96 and '98 Mausers would work well for your purpose also. I gave a 1896 build to my middle son last year. He picked the options. $600.00+- was the completed cost. as pictured. I still need to camo the metal.
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  8. JonM

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    i had a remington 700 xcr compact tactical. very very great shooting gun. however... for whatever reason i had a devil of a time loading the damn internal magazine. i ended up trading it off for a M1 Garand.

    later i bought a M1A loaded from springfield armory. was really fun to shoot but it just didnt do what i was really needing. ended up selling it and bought a savage model 10 FCP-SR. i put a nightforce nxs on it. its a submoa gun all day long with pretty much any load i choose.

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    will NOT be trading this one off!! ive got paperwork in atm since septemberish for a suppressor for it.
     
  9. crazyfomo

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    That thing looks pretty awesome. A dream would be to get an enfield or an m1 garande to be true historic to me but I've always admired the sleek simple looking m700. I don't even know where I'd go to look for a gun like that around here anyway. Again...looks awesome.
     
  10. crazyfomo

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    That thing looks bitchin'. That is a bit out of my price range. Ha couldn't load the M700 mag so you went for a much larger one lol. 10 shot mag is pretty sweet. So people are saying there both good guns so I'm a bit torn between them. Think I might go M700, depending on what prices and availability at local shops. Lucky living in a state that allows suppressors I'm looking at the MODEL 700™ SPS™ TACTICAL AAC®-SD™ which has a treaded barrel for a suppressor but NEW JERSEY doesn't want me to have one...
     
  11. jpattersonnh

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    Just ask where!! Members here will help. There are lots of great old war horses that are sleak and slick.

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  12. JTJ

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    The 10PC is a carbine with a 20" barrel and weighs 8lbs without the scope. It is very accurate with good ammo. I sold mine mostly because I felt it was too heavy for a carbine. By the time you add a scope and a bipod you are looking at 10 lbs. For that weight you might as well get the benefit of a longer barrel.
     
  13. crazyfomo

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    Just came a bit to be totally honest. That looks soooooooooooooo awesome!
     
  14. crazyfomo

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    That is pretty heavy...I didn't think that would be an issue if it's always on the bipod.
     
  15. jpattersonnh

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    A bi-pod makes a big difference. I like the Howa 1500 HB over the 700. It has a stiffer action. The receiver is flat on the bottom, so it makes it easier to bed. They are pillar bedded from the factory. I have thought about re-stocking mine, but I can't justify loosing accuracy.
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  16. crazyfomo

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    Re-stocking? Meaning putting a different stock on? That causes lose in accuracy?
     
  17. skeniger2002

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    Yea if you don't do anything to it but it increases accuracy to.
     
  18. Sniper03

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    I personaly like the feel of the Remington Precision Rifles and cosmetic look best. And the actions as far as bolt movement is smoother than the Savage. However, I will tell you that you can not go wrong "ever" with the Savage precision rifles. I have a model 10 Predator Rifle in 223/5.56 that is fantastic. They are certainly just as accurate and usually for a little less money. Their new triggers are great also and no need to adjust. I have a 40X Remington Sniper Rifle and certainly it is a great rifle but at about 3.5 times more than the good Savage Tactical rifle. And truthfully does not shoot a vast amount more accurate than the Savage. The Savage 110 Tactical is also a great rifle.

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  19. ChicagoJoe

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    Avoid Remington. Sad to say, but my recent experience has been that their quality control is lacking. I had to send two brand new Remington rifles back to the factory for problems that rendered the rifles either unsafe or unable to function.