Santa Monica "Mass Shooting"

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by HockaLouis, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

    3,617
    0
    0
    Will the Left, with the media, use this as the latest excuse to attack citizens owning AR's, etc.? Can they keep it fresh long enough to have it in the headlines on Monday too!?

    Set a house on fire. Kill people (including Dad and brother!?). Wearing a bullet-proof vest. Ya know -- like everyone with a gun does!

    "Same weapon as Sandy Hook." Will they again claim the Constitution obviously needs to be shreded?

    Has the DNC already sent all the faxes and made all its phone calls to activate their 5th Column, the 4th Estate? Not "let a good crisis go to waste" to take IRS' targeting conservatives, Benghazi, and Eric Holder's shuck and jive with illegal Justice Dept. eavesdropping off the front page for a few days!?

    Or is the public sick of it and the White House and Leftists have lost their anti-gun credibility?

    Any predictions!?
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2013
  2. shadecorp

    shadecorp Active Member Supporter

    1,463
    10
    38
    Of course I feel for those hurt by that nut.
    So many lives ruined.
    And yes,
    all the anti's love this.
     

  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

    6,926
    60
    48
    California has am ammo permit bill going up. Probably better chance of it passing the house and governors desk now.

    Have to apply for a permit to buy ammo, could be denied, costs 50 bucks and can't buy more than 3000 rounds.

    combine this with the new ammo microstamping requirements for new firearms and other bills they have to close loopholes for detachable mags and California will be back to black powder and frontier era firearms only.
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

    7
    2
    0
  5. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

    8,409
    1
    0
    Am I the only one who sees the timing of all these

    events as stunningly convenient for the gun grabbers?

    OH, look! ANOTHER Mental Health patient.

    AM I the only one thinking if more responsible

    citizens had guns, and Mental Patients were

    more closely monitored, these events would be less

    likely to happen?
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

    7
    2
    0
    Wolf, one thing i do know, that placing more restrictions, bans or gun control laws is not the answer. i do also believe that yes there does need to be more close monitoring of those individuals that are mentally unstable or unbalanced. but who is to do it? that is one very tricky and slippery slope and i, myself am not in any way qualified to really give an eduacated opinion about it. but there does not need to be any government agency involved in deciding who is mentally capable of owning a firearm. IMO, they would try to make all of us incapable of owning any firearm.
     
  7. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

    614
    0
    0
    I doubt that the antis will hit on this incident too heavily. Since it happened in Kalifornia where so called "assault weapons" are already heavily regulated the antis would have to admit that this kind of regulation does not work.
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

    7
    2
    0
    very good point Warrior! i agree.
     
  9. msup752

    msup752 New Member

    562
    0
    0
    Very true. The first time I saw this story in the media, the rifle was an "assault rifle". A bit later it became "an assault style rifle" and the next day it was "a semi automatic rifle". When I saw the first headline, I wondered how it could be an "assault" rifle as they are banned as are detachable mags. No gun control story exists here.
    Terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to all that were affected.
     
  10. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

    3,617
    0
    0
    Not so sure... I don't have TV but heard the agencies were putting all the latest psycho's weapons, high capacity magazines, and 1,300 rounds of ammo in a display for the press under a picture of a crocodile crying bloody tears...

    Can someone confirm and post that here!?
     
  11. TruggieTex

    TruggieTex New Member

    1,589
    0
    0
    I saw it on the TV news. Lower was missing, but part of an AR was shown as well as loaded metal mags and what looked like a black powder replica Navy six shooter. It was strange to say the least! Maybe someone will find a link to the video or stills as the segment did not last long...

    How this so soon...did we ever get a presentation like that after Connecticut?
     
  12. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

    4,738
    2
    0
    well, at least the cops did stop the guy before more people were injured.
     
  13. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

    2,391
    299
    83
    http://news.yahoo.com/lightbox/weap...ge-displayed-during-news-photo-032256599.html

    “...LOS ANGELES (AP) — Police in Santa Monica, Calif., said that a suspected gunman carried the following weapons, ammunition and equipment during Friday's rampage that left four people dead and several others wounded. The items were found at several crime scenes and many were displayed at a news conference on Saturday.
    — AR-15 assault-style rifle.
    — Spare upper receiver for an assault-style rifle.
    — .44 revolver.
    — Duffel bag with magazines that had about 1,300 rounds of ammunition.
    — Ballistic vest.
    — Knee pads.
    ___
    Source: Santa Monica Police Department….”
     

    Attached Files:

  14. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

    6,811
    1
    0
    I am hearing the suspect is Muslim. Starting shooting at random people. This is starting to get confusing.
     
  15. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

    3,617
    0
    0
    Thanks Ellis. The actual gun is not there. The spare upper is. How odd is THAT?

    I don't think they ever showed what was used in Sandy Hook. I don't think we know if the AR was the main gun there if it was used at all which is why I think they are still avoiding the subject. It seemed to go from "there was an AR in his car" to "he used a Bushmaster to slaughter inocent women and children and assault weapons must be banned and all guns registered."

    Anyone paying attention to the illegal domestic intelligence gathering by the Feds? You Obama defenders still want a database of all legal guns and their law-abiding owners!?
     
  16. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

    6,926
    60
    48
    I avoid the conspiracy portion of these events. I figure mental patients are unstable enough to just have some crappy timing all on their own. Like there is a good time for suiting up and shooting innocent people.

    There is surveillance video of the shooter entering the library with very clear pictures of an AR. Doubt the old Remington Army revolver was the primary.

    Funny how well that ban on pistol grips, detachable mags, bayonet lugs, and flash hiders works with psychos.
     
  17. RemFire

    RemFire New Member

    198
    0
    0
    What about the freak in China that just killed 47 people by petrol bombing their bus?. Do they really think they can take away a nutters desire and means to kill by making more gun laws?.

    Apparently this has happened several times in China lately where you can have no guns at all.
     
  18. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

    6,811
    1
    0
    Not to mention the regularity of knife attacks on children. Seems to be a thing for crazy Chinese men in their society.
     
  19. TruggieTex

    TruggieTex New Member

    1,589
    0
    0
    Some more observations on this tragedy...

    -1300 rounds of .223 would be around 40lbs....was he carrying this?
    -where is the rifle?
    -why not show it?
    -what do the witness testimonies like this from a student who's teacher had gone outside to see what was happening...."He told the class he had heard a gun unload. "He said it just sprayed and unloaded tons of rounds," Franco said." suggest about the weapon?

    His name has been released, BTW.
     
  20. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

    6,194
    245
    63
    John Zawahri fired about 75 rounds in the library before campus police killed him. He was admitted to a nut hospital "about two years ago". So, we have another murder and mayhem episode by a fruitcake who should not have been been allowed to own guns. The state of CA has an organization that confiscates the guns of newly convicted felons and nutcases: Did this guy fall through the crack?

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0...-rifle-in-chaotic-Santa-Monica-shooting-spree

    http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2013/06/santa_monica_sh.php

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/09/john-zawahri-santa-monica_n_3409649.html