San Bernardino Call to Arms

Discussion in 'Firearms in the Media' started by JTJ, Feb 4, 2016.

  1. JTJ

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  2. harkersislandnc

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    Shame they are only pushing for goverment employees to be armed. When support for all citizens to be armed is called for they will have woken up IMHO.
     

  3. locutus

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    It's a start. You don't fell a tree with a single swing of the ax. you keep swinging it.
     
  4. kfox75

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    The filling of a rain barrel begins with nothing more than a single drop of rain. That's how the movement towards the reality od self protection, bot for the individual, and the larger group also begins.
     
  5. MisterMills

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    "Jodi Miller, a public information officer with the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department, told FoxNews.com that more than 1,000 new applications have flooded in for concealed carry permits in the last two months.
    But the Sheriff’s Department has had a tough time keeping up with the deluge of permit requests. Miller said the department was adding personnel to help alleviate the backlog of applications, but as of now the wait is 12 months. Before the attacks, the wait was about three months."

    A wait of 1 year to get a carry permit. What are the idiots checking for, how could it take that long?
     
  6. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    It's California. They have to have a massive bureaucracy for everything. And in this case, the purpose of the bureaucracy is to use inertia to persuade at least some potential applicants that a carry permit is not worth the effort.

    The permit request probably involve a dozen steps, each of which must be:
    - reviewed (30 seconds to 5 minutes tops),
    - reported (1-2 hours),
    - report reviewed (5 minutes scheduled out 2 weeks from receipt),
    - report sent back for spelling/punctuation errors (30 seconds to 5 minutes),
    - report corrected (2 hours of bitching about boss, 5 minutes of editing, 5 minutes to send back),
    - corrected report reviewed (10 minutes scheduled 2 weeks from receipt),
    - report approved (30 seconds to 5 minutes),
    - approved report returned so that sender can start on next step (no fair doing multiple steps at the same time!!!)

    And so it goes...
     
  7. kfox75

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    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/california.pdf

    The first 3 pages cover the steps you need to take to get a CHL in Comiefornia. That and Balota's post pretty much says it all. Also, they were recently forced to go to a shall issue basis, and likely tried to run it with the same number of officers they had while may issue, figuring most folks still wouldn't bother getting one. Hell, with the exception of NYC, NY's Permit process is more efficient by leaps and bounds.

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newyork.pdf
     
  8. locutus

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    Two steps forward, one step back.

    It's fun using their own strategy against them!:D
     
  9. MisterMills

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    Sad But True.

    Balota,
    It's California. They have to have a massive bureaucracy for everything. And in this case, the purpose of the bureaucracy is to use inertia to persuade at least some potential applicants that a carry permit is not worth the effort.

    You are right of course. And because of injustice like that in America, I have a new anger in me, and I use the word Communist a lot more.
    There is a lot of truth in what I say, there is something nefarious going on and it is hidden.
    The rats have taken up residence and we will never run them out. There is a real war going on, it is not merely metaphoric. And we have to learn how to wage a defensive action.
     
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  10. JTJ

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    There in lies the problem. We are on the defensive while the rats are on the offensive. We have to learn to take the battle to them. We need to be on the offensive.