Firearms Talk banner

1 - 18 of 18 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I'm wanting to mount a safe in the master bedroom closet. I'm in the process of installing new floors and an idea for mounting came to mind. Since the floors are down to concrete now I was thinking instead of drilling through the concrete to mount a safe I was wondering what you guys thought about concreting it to the floor. I don't know if I'm putting to much thought into it but, was wondering if maybe the cold moist concrete would eventually have adverse condition to the safe or if the dampness from the concrete would penetrate the safe. Any thoughts. Thanks
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,264 Posts
Some safes are made to be set and or surrounded in concrete. Cash drop safes come to mind where the door is round, and heavy, and sits below the level of the floor. Pretty sure you are not talking about that kind.

Most small safes are bolted to a floor, wall, something, to keep them from walking away.

Welcome to the forum!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,249 Posts
I believe you want a layer of something between the concrete and safe to prevent it from rusting. Plywood seems to be popular probably because it's so cheap and not high enough to allow a prybar to get a lot of leverage.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
I believe you want a layer of something between the concrete and safe to prevent it from rusting. Plywood seems to be popular probably because it's so cheap and not high enough to allow a prybar to get a lot of leverage.
Your right, I didn't even think about having something between the safe and concrete since this idea just popped into my head today and I haven't had the chance to plan it out completely yet.
More ideas and thoughts please.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
268 Posts
I believe you want a layer of something between the concrete and safe to prevent it from rusting. Plywood seems to be popular probably because it's so cheap and not high enough to allow a prybar to get a lot of leverage.
Mine is on carpet now but before when we had the old one in the garage we went to the ag store and bought that thick 1" rubber matt that horses stand on and cut it in half and double stacked it under the safe.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22 Posts
Do not drill through the floor but into it.there are many very good construction adhesives that you can also use. Using them does not allow any use of a pry.You had better realize that this is very permanent.Also keep that areas humidity at 50% and you should not have to worry. vasa1628


Sent from my iPad using Firearms Talk
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
102 Posts
I believe you want a layer of something between the concrete and safe to prevent it from rusting. Plywood seems to be popular probably because it's so cheap and not high enough to allow a prybar to get a lot of leverage.
Plywood tends to accumulate moisture. I would use a sheet of plain plastic (saw a 8'x4' in among panels in Home Depot), or aluminum sheet. Nothing fancy, just a moisture barrier.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22 Posts
Another idea came to me,Rustoleum makes spray on rubber coating that would be perfect.Spray the area that the safe will sit on.then allow it to dry be careful not to scrape it while setting the safe in place.Set the safe on 2 or 3 pic rollers to get it in place.Then remove each roller by tilting the safe.If you use a construction adhesive as I mentioned before it should also be a seal.The pic rollers are also very easy to use getting the safe around in the house.If you have to go over carpet lay down some plastic,cover with plywood and fool it in.The rollers can be angled to turn it as required.Size of rollers depends on safe weight. vasa1628
sorry that should be PVC rollers.

Sent from my iPad using Firearms Talk
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
663 Posts
a concrete bit and concrete anchor bolts if sitting on a concrete floor.

large lag bolts if the floor is wood.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
304 Posts
When I moved my bigger safe to my brothers house I used (4) 3/4" diameter HILTI quick bolts to bolt it to the foundation. It's not a light safe by any means. At least 500 lbs I would imagine. When his house got broken into and ransacked a couple years ago there were pry marks all around the safe on the floor but it didn't budge one bit. And if you end up moving in the future you can just unbolt it and cut the quick bolts off flush with the pad and re carpet the area. HILTI makes inset anchors as well but the main reason I didn't use them is because if your hole is a little bit wallered out or you didn't set it right they have the tendency to come out.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
6,618 Posts
You would be using grout or mortar to mount your safe. Neither sticks to concrete very well. One man with a good hand cart and a motorcycle/4 wheeler trailer can just take your safe away. Bolt the safe to the floor. Do not try to reinvent the wheel.

I just helped a friend put in a 26 gun Liberty safe. We used my motorcycle trailer to get the safe to the front door. Once we go the safe in the house I slid the safe on comforters by myself to the place where he wanted it. I am not in very good health. A healthy man can easily steal an improperly mounted gun safe, all by himself.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,509 Posts
You would be using grout or mortar to mount your safe. Neither sticks to concrete very well. One man with a good hand cart and a motorcycle/4 wheeler trailer can just take your safe away. Bolt the safe to the floor. Do not try to reinvent the wheel.

I just helped a friend put in a 26 gun Liberty safe. We used my motorcycle trailer to get the safe to the front door. Once we go the safe in the house I slid the safe on comforters by myself to the place where he wanted it. I am not in very good health. A healthy man can easily steal an improperly mounted gun safe, all by himself.
Bolt steel legs flat on the bottom made of Unistrut thet are wider than the door opening. Unless you get the safe open, you wont get the bolts out. also gives you something to chain other items to.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,565 Posts
I'm wanting to mount a safe in the master bedroom closet. I'm in the process of installing new floors and an idea for mounting came to mind. Since the floors are down to concrete now I was thinking instead of drilling through the concrete to mount a safe I was wondering what you guys thought about concreting it to the floor. I don't know if I'm putting to much thought into it but, was wondering if maybe the cold moist concrete would eventually have adverse condition to the safe or if the dampness from the concrete would penetrate the safe. Any thoughts. Thanks
My Cannon safe has been bolted to the concrete foundation for 15 years & it's in an empty closet. No rust problems. I do keep a bag of dessicant in it.
 
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
Top