SAA knockoff?

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by blucoondawg, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    I have come across a set of matching Single Action Army type revolvers however I don't think they are Colts, they don't say Colt anywhere on them, all they have is the caliber on the left side of the barrel which is 357M and on top of the barrel it has Hartford CT, the boxes are gold in color with a black and white eagle in the center and a few black and white pistols, it says Hartford Model on the box. I can't find any examples of these on the auction sites, I don't really know what I am looking at, are these EMF guns? I have pics but don't know how to upload them on to here. They are identical and 2 serial numbers off, I believe xx114 and xx116. Just wondering what they are worth as a pair or separate. The mother in law is looking to sell them, the father in law had them for cowboy action shooters. They are in very good condition.
     
  2. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    Try this with my phone

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  3. Bob Wright

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    My guess is that they are USFA Single Actions. The USFA (United States Firearms) were made in the old Colt factory in Hartford, CT.

    If they are indeed USFA guns, price is pretty well around $1000 each. More or less, dependng upon condition.


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  4. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    How would one tell if they are in fact the USFA or if they are Italian knock offs?
     
  5. Baxter

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    Armi San Marco is the manufacturer, they go for about $400-$500 each. Check out gunbroker.com to get a good idea.Hartford Model is a 1873 SAA clone. Knock off sounds a bit harsh, clone is a better term. Most SAA you see these days are clones. A lot of them are built better than the original colt. Go check out a SASS event, id say 9 of 10 are not Colt.
     
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  6. JonM

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    its got colt grips. the rearing pony is one of colt's trademarks. good pics of markngs would help.

    uberti, emf, usfa all made or make clones of the colt saa. the uberti and usfa guns are worth some money depending on model. yours looks decent but pics are deceptive

    i do cas but i run ruger new vaqueros in 45colt simply so i dont have to have a backup gun when one breaks. seen a few colts and their clones with issues doing cas
     
  7. CrunchyFrog

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    See if you can contact some of the former owner's cowboy shooting friends. If you don't know them just check with your local SASS chapter. I bet someone in the club would buy them or help you sell them.

    If they are match guns they need to get back in the game!
     
  8. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    He was just getting into it and I don't know if they had an actual organization, just some guys messing around most likley
     
  9. CrunchyFrog

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    Go to www.sassnet.com and click on "SASS Clubs" and then pick your state from the list. This will take you to a page with all of the SASS affiliated clubs in the state, with website address and contact info for each club. Call or email the contact and let them know that you have a pair of .357 single action revolvers for sale. The .38/.357 is the most popular caliber for cowboy shooting so you will probably find a buyer. There are always new shooters looking for gear or veteran shooters looking for "backups".
     
  10. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    Thanks for the tip, there is a local club, I'm sure he wasn't a member of it but nonetheless it may be a good resource to sell these pistols, it has a guys email address, I will get the info off the guns and some good pics of the 2 and contact him.
     
  11. string1946

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    I have a SAA clone that sounds a lot like yours. It was imported by EMF. I don't still have the box but I think it looked a lot like yours. The extra cylinder for mine is 45 ACP.
     

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  12. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    I know I have been away from this thread for awhile, thanks for that post with the pics, I examined the ones I have again and they are indeed identical other than caliber, they are EMF, I hadn't noticed the stamp under the barrel next to the ejection rod before. Now I guess I will see what they will bring, this whole deal with the father in law's guns is kind of overwhelming, he had so many and some are just odd balls that I have no idea if they are worth 10 dollars for parts or if they are a high priced rarity.
     
  13. St8LineGunsmith

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    actually they are Armi San Marco Hartford CT models imported by EMF
    worth about 500.00 in excellent condition.
     
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