S&W SW40VE Sigma "Allied Forces" Model

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by WillBender, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. WillBender

    WillBender New Member

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    Just bought myself a smith and wesson sigma 40 VE model. its all black so they called this the allied forces model. anyways my dad is in the military and bought it from a trusted coworker who says he bought it as a gift and never fired it. its in great condition. no ware that i can see at all, except for maybe pulling the slide now and then. well anyways i paid 400$ for it. it comes with two standard clips and 2 high capacity clips, and a holster. nice holster i might add. anyways just out of curiosity wondering if anyone thought that was a bad deal. i have been trying to do some research on the later VE model sigmas and haven't gotten to far.
     

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  2. dks7895

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    You paid too much. Even though it's unfired, it's still used. MSRP is $379
     

  3. trip286

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    Never heard of an "allied forces" model. Never heard of one that's not all black for that matter.

    You over paid about 20 bucks if it were just the pistol. With holster and 4 magazines, and used, you paid a pretty fair price. Not a deal to write home about, but no need to hang your head in shame.
     
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  4. austin92

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    I paid 349 for mine and felt like I was giving a little much. Although I only got the gun (non black slide) and 2 14rd mags.
     
  5. bige91603

    bige91603 New Member

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    Its an okay deal since there are 4 mags and a holster. I got an sd9ve for 300 nib last summer
     
  6. WillBender

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    Yea I wish I could if asked for less i jumped on it because the guy was going to sell it at the gun show the next day. But I read that they called it the allied forces model because police nation wide and over seas ordered 22000 and pre ordered more of the 9 mm model and thy called it allied forces because they ordered the all black model. Haven't seen to many of them around. But it's a nice alternative to spending 600+ on a glock 23 an accessories. Pretty similar gun.
     
  7. Olympus

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    Got the same gun as a wedding gift.
     
  8. WillBender

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    How do you like it?
     
  9. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    Shouldn't have said anything. I hated it and traded it on another gun. Sorry man.
     
  10. WillBender

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    No it's cool, why didnt you like it though?
     
  11. Olympus

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    The trigger was incredibly heavy, gritty, and felt like a washboard. My wife wasn't even strong enough to pull the trigger through a full mag. It was a .40 and I don't like the snappy recoil. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. Just wasn't for me.
     
  12. WillBender

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    Well I can understand, the heavy trigger was actually manufactured on purpose at customers will because it ads another safely for police or security or a civilian who carries every day. They had made so many for people who had wanted a heavy trigger thy they just manufactured it that way. You can call smith and wesson and they will pay to have your trigger lightened If you don't like it. Personally I think it's great because once you get used to it, you hardly even notice it anymore. And since they dont have any external safetys its makes me feel a lot more comfortable about carrying. And if you didn't want to go through that trouble you can buy a 3.5# wolf spring and its like butter. But to each is own. I like hearing others opinions and to Hopefully shed light on an unopened idea.
     
  13. austin92

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    Yeah, I replace the recoil guild rod and spring along with lightened the trigger pull. Very enjoyable to shoot now
     
  14. TaurusUserPT92

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    I wish I had never sold mine. They are awesome handguns the two high cap mags would've cost about 70 so you got a decent deal.
     
  15. WillBender

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    Yea I figured if the gun was 300 I got 2 extra mags 30$ a piece and a 50$ holster I think I paid what it was worth. No more or no less
     
  16. lucznik

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    The "Allied Forces" model is so named because they are one of the primary guns the US is providing to the Afghan police and military forces as part of their "retraining." They are similar to but far less expensive than buying Glocks. They are essentially just Sigma VE models except that the slide is blackened with "Melonite" rather than being left in the VE standard stainless.

    With the extra two magazines and the holster, you made out just fine on price. Heck give it a few more months and, if Obama-nation gets his way, you might just be able to sell the two high-cap mags for more than you paid for the whole kit.
     
  17. colmustard

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    Very cool pistol! I never seen one in all black before! I have a sigma in .40 and love it. Had it for about 5 years now and no real issues. The only thing that came up is I wore out the recoil spring and guide rod, from shooting so much. I could have bought a new guide rod for cheap, but smith and wesson fixed it for free! Got to love that lifetime gurantee! Also they went ahead a put a new extractor on it just because!

    So for the money and how well the pistol performs, it is one of my favorites! So congrats again on your purchase and have fun and be safe!
     
  18. WillBender

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    Any ideas on where I could get clips extenders. I have high cap mags but they don't have the extenders so they are open at the bottom
     
  19. BeyondTheBox

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    I always liked the Sigmas, and heavy triggers, as long as they're short, and this one is sufficient in that regard. My bosses was a blast to shoot, quite accurate, only jammed a couple times due to lack of proper cleaning. At first we thought it was the Blazer ammo, still can't ensure that didn't contribute, but he was pretty sure he forgot to clean it after the last range trip.

    Enjoy it man, first one I've seen that wasn't duo tone as well.
     
  20. KJH_1185

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    Paid a bit much. No big deal though. I got a sd 40 for 300 brand new which is basically the same gun. I love it though. Different people like different trigger pull. If you like the heavy pull you'll love it. I'm not a fan of super light triggers though.