S&W GOVERNOR!(Like The Judge)

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by ninjatoth, Apr 10, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

    1,733
    0
    0
    I just was looking at S&W's website today and notice they have something called the Governor,I never heard of it before,but it's just like the Taurus Judge!It also comes with 6rnd and 2rnd moon clips for .45 acp also so it can shoot .410,.45LC and .45acp all in the same cylinder.I wouldn't buy a Judge but I would buy this!Anyone seen this gun before?
     

    Attached Files:

  2. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

    8,358
    4
    0
    I have seen it, held it, but not fired it. A little smaller than a Judge, feels good in the paw, and a more reliable name. Price is under $700 or $650, thereabouts.

    It could be someone's answer to in-home personal security/defense firearm, who does not want the length of a shotty, and would still be able to shoot .410 buck/00 loaded rounds with a handgun and .45 acp ammo, 2 birds, one stone...or a woods carry, critter gun. :cool:
     

  3. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

    1,733
    0
    0
    I want it.I was thinking about getting a .44 mag as a dual purpose nightstand/deer hunting backup,but with the 44 I will shoot it less,44 mag ammo is insane,and good luck finding .44 spl ammo.At least with this gun,I think no matter where I go i'll be able to find some fuel for the thing.
     
  4. wmille01

    wmille01 New Member

    508
    0
    0
    so why can't the judge shoot the .45 acp?
     
  5. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

    1,530
    0
    0
    Its not cut for moonclips is the only reason.
    You could have it cut aftermarket and it would work, presuming you could find the appropriate moonclips.
     
  6. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

    9,663
    4
    0
    I wonder what the accuracy would be like shooting 45acp. That bullet is going to be jumping a LONG way before it hits the forcing cone.
     
  7. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

    5,132
    1
    0
    I had the same thoughts. Be interesting to know if someone here has fired it.
     
  8. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

    1,530
    0
    0
    That's a good point. Also, I just don't see a use for this weapon. I really don't. If its home defense why does it have to have a 2 3/4" barrel, I'd rather have a 18.5" or 20" 12 Gauge.

    It is larger to carry and less effective then a .357 revolver with 6 rounds, as a matter of fact it has the same frame as the 8-shot 357 from S&W. Furthermore, if you miss those OOO buck pellets could hit mutliple people other then the intended target.
     
  9. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

    5,132
    1
    0
    You would have one hell of a spread right away with the .410. Tat in itself makes it a great home defense tool.
     
  10. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

    1,680
    0
    0
    It's been out for a while. It seems like it'll have a nitch with lots of folks that flat out refuse to let a Taurus within 50 ft. of their safe (myself included), but dig the idea of being able to spray shot out of a hand-held firearm. Most people trust a Smith. . .
     
  11. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

    9,663
    4
    0
    I can see the arguement but I disagree. I see the quick spread as an advantage but keep in mind A LOT of energy will be lost quickly as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again here....I think people are trying to make the 410 into something it's not.
    It's not a handgun round(although playing with one could be fun) and it's not a self defense round(even from a long gun). I don't want to be on the business end of one but there are much better choices out there for SD then a 410.
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2011
  12. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

    1,530
    0
    0
    Exactly my feelings
     
  13. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

    1,680
    0
    0
    First off I would never consider a "Governor" as a "home defense" weapon, only as a mobile "Personal defense" weapon.

    Despite the loss of energy that your book tells you occurs, common sense tells me that a good spray in the face with even bird shot would stop most 2 legged attacks, especially followed by a .45 to the torso. :eek: The .410 isn't meant to be the only cartridge loaded in your cylinder, only a part of the set-up.

    Once you dump the 1st cylinder, you could start loading moon clips of .45 ACP if the fight continues.

    In my eyes the gun would be good for a desert/canyon land trail companion, when your only threatening encounters would be from humans, snakes and maybe a Coyote or porcupine, no bears!

    This gun's use is limited and I was never even phased by the intro of "The Judge", but if I had a chance to get a bargain on one or trade, I may jump. ;)
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

    7,141
    0
    0
    The purpose of it is real simple... to make money. The new owners at Smith are far smarter than their predecessors, and they know a good thing when they see it. Taurus has made a boat load off the Judge, and the market hasn't gone soft yet. I would have to imagine that at the SHOT show in Las Vegas this year, there were a lot of Taurus reps with a big grin on their face saying "I told you so."
     
  15. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

    8,358
    4
    0
    Damn, y'all must live in some big-*** houses...and a tough crowd to please to boot. Some of my best work is done at less than 25 feet. :rolleyes:

    I think it feels and looks better built than the "Judge", and besides a possible HD and critter gun, IMHO, I think it would make a damn fine motorcycle/truck gun. YMMV
     
  16. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

    4,823
    0
    0
    I don't see where it looks better or anything over a Judge. That being said I think it's a party favor more than a defense weapon. Just like the Judge. The only reason this looks any better is the name on the side. And that's not near enough to make this a viable HD option. To me all they have done here is paint a turd. and you can paint a turd in gold but you still just have a gold turd.
     
  17. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

    8,358
    4
    0
    Damn, and here all this time, I thought Tango was the turd authority! :p

    To be fair here, I am not taking sides or such, and we all have our opinions, but are you just looking at the picture Drum, or have ya held one, examined it, tested cylinder tolerance and even fired one on that assumption for comparison?

    I have done some real "viable" things in the past, with some turds, if I do say so myself. ;)
     
  18. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

    1,733
    0
    0
    Let me say something here.The governor "can"and "may" shoot .410 shells,but it's real chambering is for the 45 Colt,not the .410 shell,so what's wrong with 6-.45 Colt or .45acp for an HD gun?I think the .410 part of it is just for having fun shooting little critters or something.
     
  19. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

    7,143
    1
    0
    Nothing at all, however, this is a bit easier to tote around and it holds 8 rounds. I see the Judge and the Governor as gimmicks. Possibly useful if you have a ranch in the country though...

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

    659
    0
    0
    Proper 000 .410 loads from a long gun will be more effective than almost any common defensive handgun loading.


    But take ANYTHING designed to be shot out of an 18" barrel, and shoot it out of a 3" barrel, and you're going to have a LOUD, weak gun.

    A hypothetical AR15 with a 3" barrel would be like a .22lr that is ten times as loud. A hypothetical AR10 with a 3" barrel would be about like a .32ACP that is a a billion times louder. A 12g load in a 3" barrel will come out like a handful of thrown rocks, heh.

    The only problem with the weapon is the lack of velocity prevents adequate penetration with .410. If they made a 10" judge, given shotshells use handgun powder, velocity would still be about 80-90% advertised and it would still be quite effective at close range. But, they don't, and this is all really just a genious marketing scheme by Taurus (onto which S&W and jumping to get some of the money while they can).
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.