Hey, folks, I'm just getting back into shooting and collecting, and I'm looking into getting my first 357 (I know, I can't believe I never bought one before, either). I haven't been paying enough attention of late and just wanting to get a bearing on the new (to me, anyway) numbers and frame designations. This is what I thought was the deal, from smallest to largest (I may be wrong, feel free to correct me): J-frame - all the 5-shot 38's, simple enough (right?) K-frame - the 10, the 65 and 66 (38 or 357, depending) L-frame - only one I know by name is the 686 (38/357), maybe a few others I'm not aware of. N-frame - 357 (the 27), 41mag, 44mag, maybe others Now, 2 questions: #1: I remember seeing this model 610/620 advertised as the 'replacement' to the 'tradition of the' either the K-frame or the 686, or the 65/66 specifically, I forget which exactly. Is the 610 or 620 (again, I get confused easily. My Dell laptops also are a 610 and a 620, go fig ), are these K-frames or L-frames? Or what? #2: I bought a S&W 625 45ACP from a shipmate back in 2002. I haven't even looked at it in about 3 years and it's been in my storage unit for nearly as long. Which frame would that be? I'm guessing maybe it's an L-frame. It's large enough for 6 shots, but didn't seem oversized for my hand. Just curious if someone can confirm for me. Again, I apologize if these seem like stupid questions, but I'm way rusty and just getting back into the scene. (I start my AT tomorrow, so I won't be checking the thread or replying for a few days) Thanks.