S&W 686 or Ruger GP100?

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by TouchMyGlock, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. TouchMyGlock

    TouchMyGlock New Member

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    I am interested in buying a .357mag with a 4 inch barrel. I can't decide whether I want a S&W 686 or a Ruger GP100. The price difference at my local gun shop is about $200, with the Ruger being the less expensive of the two. Is it worth the extra $200 for the S&W, or am I paying for the name? What would be the pros and cons of the two? And is there another .357 that I should be considering?

    Thanks!
     
  2. tiberius10721

    tiberius10721 New Member

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    I own both and love both of them. The gp 100 is built like a tank and very accurate . The smith and wesson has a nicer trigger in my opinion . Both guns are definatley worth their price. If you can afford the 686 it's worth it.
     

  3. mcb

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    I own a 6 inch 686 and once owned a gp100 4 inch, both will go to your grandchildren. The Ruger is built like a tank the Smith has a better trigger.

    I traded the gp100 on a single action Blackhawk. I now have four single action rugers and love them.

    In double action revolvers I now only own smiths and one colt. I would spend the extra money, you get what you pay for.
     
  4. Jeremy1912

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    I went through the same thing when I went to get my first revolver. I ended up doing weeks of research and review reading on both of them. I think that they are both great guns. I personally went with the gp-100 in 4" as well and I love it and have never once thought that I made the wrong decision. I held them both and yes the smith does have a slightly better trigger but to me the ruger just felt better in the hands. And I can always get a trigger job done for less than the extra it would have cost me to get the smith.

    In the end though I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Just go to your local shop and hold and possibly shoot them both and go with what feels best to you.
     
  5. BikerRN

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    I would not buy any new S&W with a "Hillary Hole" for home or self defense after having an ILS equiped S&W Revolver fail on me at the range.

    While Ruger has a locking system it is under the stocks and not able to be activated by recoil. If you can find a Used "non-lock" S&W I'd say go for it. If new I think Ruger is the only way to go. The triggers and actions on Rugers can be cleaned up quite well to rival even a "worked on" S&W.

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  6. rugernut

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    I own a gp100 6" and it's the most reliable gun I own and have had it covered in mud and it still shot the 686 is a real acurit gun but I don't think it would handel as as many heavy loads as the gp100 don't mind the spelling
     
  7. mcb

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    Biker you make a good point all of mine but a 642 jframe are pre Hillary hole.
     
  8. fmj

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    My 4" 686 is a GREAT gun. Its my carry piece when i am trout fishing or deer hunting. Its been soaked, submerged in silty rivers and mud caked and has never failed to function perfectly. It also has the Hitlery hole (that has never been engaged) and as of yet, in the 10 years i have owned it, never had a problem. It has also shot some pretty high velocity rounds thru it.

    The only thing i regret about my 686...is i should have gotten a .44 mag instead of a .357 mag. ;)

    The 686 is the weapon breathing that fireball in my avatar picture.
     
  9. orangello

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    I've been very happy with my GP100; the trigger is fine for my needs.
    I haven't noticed a locking system on/in it, but i haven't needed one.
     
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  10. Olympus

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    My recommendation would be to find a nice, older S&W 686. Quality has gone down from the older guns to the new S&W revolvers. 686s are common guns, so you shouldn't have any problems finding one. Check on the various classifieds sections on forums as well. I'd much rather have a nice older S&W than the new ones they are selling now.
     
  11. rugernut

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    What is a Hillary hole. I have never herd of that
     
  12. fmj

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    New BS fed demands for integral trigger locking device.
     
  13. rugernut

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    O ok thanks
     
  14. rjgnwdc

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    So you have choice a Hillary Hole or a billboard warning that is engraved on the barrel ("Bill"board) of the Ruger... on the S&W forum they say there is a plug for the hole and you can remove the lock, on the Ruger Forum they talk about sanding it off the barrel:eek: I went with the S&W (when looking at .44mags) because there is no comparison in the triggers and to get a trigger as good as the S&W you will probably pay the difference in what you saved on the Ruger IMHO:D But like one of the posters said it really is what feels better in "your" hand.
     
  15. BikerRN

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    I would be more hesitant to remove a safety device, and that's what the Hillary Hole is classified as, than a collection of letters stamped in to my gun.

    Removing a safety device may or may not be factor if you use your weapon in a real life situation. It's a factor I don't care to even give a jury to consider. If you think you can convince twelve people, the jury, that you know more about the gun in question than the designers and makers, more power to you. Me, I'm not willing to take that chance.

    Biker
     
  16. Jstrong

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    I can vouch for ruger revolvers,my sp101 is my favorite gun and I shoot that .357 better than any other gun I own. If you want a gun with a sweet action out of the box then I can't deny, the Smith is gonna beat the ruger any day of the week. But if you want a workhorse of a gun that will eat whatever your grandchildren can stuff in the cylinders after your dead and gone,and beg for more of it... than a ruger wheelgun is it partner. They might be a little rough around the edges,but I know my little sp101 is built like an M1 Abrams. I can only imagine how a full size gp100 would be. Not saying anything against the quality of a Smith because that's exactly what they are... quality workmanship. You pick up a Smith and it feels like a finely tuned sweet shooting gun with attention payed to the little details,that's how Smith and Wesson got the name they have for building wheelguns. But in my opinion when I pick up a ruger and feel the weight and heft of that stainless,i feel ruggedness and shootability,i feel a gun built like a train and engineered to take a pounding from those hot loads that hit like one too.

    So you have to ask yourself what you really want out of a revolver,once you answer that your decision should be an easy one.
     
  17. rjgnwdc

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    Not really sure what you're talking about with the jury and trying to convince them I know more than the designers:confused:
    I personally would never remove mine, my Ruger MKIII, Bersa, Beretta PX4 Storm and S&W model 629 all have the hole and don’t care one way or the other it really doesn’t bother me, but it seems to really!!! bother the S&W connoisseurs or aficionados there are countless threads on the S&W forums about it… they in general really hate that hole. I guess I would rather not have it but it’s there so whatayagonnado. In fact all my newer pistols except my 1911’s have it.
     
  18. BikerRN

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    My apologies.

    I thought you were advocating the removal of the lock. While I am less then a fan of the lock I am more against the removal of it from what could be a legal liability standpoint. My convincing the jury part was for anyone that removes the lock. That's a tough argument to make and convince twelve people of.

    Put me in the camp as one of the S&W guys that hates the hole. I have a couple of the lock equiped S&W revolvers but I wouldn't cry if I lost them in a boating accident because I really do dislike the lock, AKA: Hillary Hole. I'll trade them in on something else that doesn't have a lock one of these days.

    Biker
     
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  19. Gh0zt36

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    Dan Wesson 15-2 convertible
     
  20. BikerRN

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    FYI: For less than $20 and a little time one can turn out a sweet shooting Ruger revolver.

    Biker