Russian Mosin Nagant 1891/30

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Revolver, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. Revolver

    Revolver New Member

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    Hey guys, I'm a avid gun collector and recently ive thought about purchasing a Russian Mosin Nagant, Ive heard some very good things about this gun, but sadly i dont know much about it detail wise. If any of you are familiar with this firearm and can give me some specs of it, such as effective range, modifications, etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Hit the link for some info on the gun if your not very familiar with it.
    Collecting and Shooting the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 - HISTORY
     
  2. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    Check out the Curio & Relic Discussion section a few spots down from this one. There is some M-N discussions in there.
     

  3. 4jeepers

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    :) I owned one many years ago! I had bought it for $8.95 in very good condition! It was a fine shooter and accurate enough at 300 yards. The 7.62x54 round compares to 30-06, 303 etc. and easy to find surplus and new manufacture. Go for it and have a good time!;)
     
  4. mpd8488

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    I've got a 91/30 and an M44. I love them. I can't give you specs, but they are a blast to shoot. A 91/30 with a hex receiver will go for around a 100 bucks today- less online, but once you pay transfer fees, etc, it comes out about the same. A round receiver example will probably run you a little less. The hex receiver is a bit stronger, but you probably won't run into any issues with a round receiver model. My m44 has a round receiver and as far as I'm concerned it's a better firearm than my 91/30 (based on the condition and build quality of my individual examples).
     
  5. GarandGuy

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    I own an M-39 Finnish rework of a Russian M-91 {not to be confused with the M-91-30. Most of the rifles I have encountered have been top notch as far as accuracy and reliability. Some of the finish may seem a tad lackluster but that is par for the course. Yes the 7.62x54Rmm will compare to the .303 British and the 7.7 Jap. and it is actually closer to the .308 not the .30-06 as mentioned earlier, yes I saw an article years ago in a gun magazine about how the Mosin Nagant was called "The .30-06 of the Red Square" SEVERE misnomer compare the ballsitics on a chart and see why 7.62x54Rmm vs. 7.62x63mm / .30-06. ;>) Be aware that some bore sizes may be as large as .318"! I have seen many RARE .308" bore sizes too.

    The projectile is of the .311" size which is suitable for those that may own a .303 British, 7.7 Jap., etc.
     
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  6. gandog56

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    I have 4 91/30's, a 91/59, an M38, an M44, and a New England Westinghouse M91. Milsurp ammo is fairly cheap and abundant, but the primers are corrosive and special care must be taken when cleaning the rifles to get rid of nasty residue that can pit your barrels. I also reload for them, and can avoid the nasty cleanups. Generally I use the milsurp for general plinking and my reloads for accuracy. 7.62X54R is right up there and almost equivalent to 30.06, and can be used at like ranges.
     
  7. karlsgunbunker

    karlsgunbunker New Member

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    Check out 7.62x54r.net, Lots of info on the Mosin-Nagant.

    My collection just keeps growing.

    4 - 91/30's - 2 hex and 2 round
    2 - M38's 2 w/correct stocks 1 Laminated
    2 - M38's Sporterized
    1 - 91/59 Hex Tula
    1 - 91/38 1914 date
    1 - M44 w/Laminated stock

    I've been culling my collection and I'm now down to the cream.
     
  8. Laufer

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    Revolver:
    Just know what to look for in the bore. I'm not young, but started very late with guns.
    Both of my MN 44s' bores look fairly good, but produce wide patterns at just 50 yards, i.e. about 6-8", even with the bayonets extended.

    Both are in almost excellent condition otherwise, so just beware of those which otherwise have very good-looking metal and wood.
     
  9. gregs887

    gregs887 New Member

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    Best $70 you'll ever spend.
     
  10. elrick78

    elrick78 New Member

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    mosin-nagant 1891/30

    I just inherited this and know nothing about it except what I have looked up online. I have noticed russian symbols on it and beleive it was russian military issue. still works but missing the scope and strap.
     
  11. jpattersonnh

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    erlick, A sling is $10.00 from a number of wholesalers. What "scope" are you talking about? 91/30's were issued w/ iron sights. If you have an ex-sniper, where are/were the holes in the receiver?
     
  12. RCHanlin

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    If it's a sniper model, it'll also have a bent bolt with a cut out stock (inlet for the bolt handle) There were two types of scopes that came with these rifles the most common being the PU type. In any event, you gotta love these rifles.

    Cheers:)
     
  13. jpattersonnh

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    3 types of 91/30 snipers: Pu, PE, PEM. There were 5 distinct scopes used.
     
  14. RCHanlin

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    I stand corrected.. Thank you jp :) I guess I was including the PE and the PEM as the same even though they are slightly different. I am not aware of the other two though ??
     
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  15. gandog56

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    Well let me think

    5 91/30's (Two of them SA Stamped Barreled ones)
    1 91/59
    1 M38
    1 M39
    1 M44
    1 M91 New England Westinghouse

    Now I need an M27 and a Remington.
     
  16. jpattersonnh

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    What you are missing is that for modern military cartridges you have the..
    8x57 1898
    .303 1903
    7.62x54r 1903
    .30-06 1906

    These dates are for spitzer FMJ bullets, they were all grouped together because it started the greatest arms race in history. The U.S. lagged behind and paid a license fee to Germany for copying the '98 action until we entered WW1.

    The 7.7 Jap came in 1939, just to clarify.
     
  17. GarandGuy

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    I know exactly what you mean. I also own the rifles in the calibers you mention. I have quite a few "milsurps" and I also have my own forum that I co-own with a good friend of mine as well. I've been around the block one or two times myself. :D